ImberBoy

I think it's absolutely fantastic if some one sorts out a do for charity and I would do my best to support it.

Ady is track 7 (YOU'D BETTER) STRAIGHTEN UP AND FLY RIGHT The Devonnes the same as Terri Bryant - Straighten Up And Fly Right? Coz the Terri Bryant is mega!!!!

https://cgi.ebay.com/Gwp-Nyc-Tcb-New-CD-KENT-SOUL%2FHEPCAT-2005-ROCK-SEALED_W0QQitemZ350252077656QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090913?IMSfp=TL090913138002r20215 Can't find a clip, the CD is on e-bay Keep Your Love Warm - Lily Fields I want to hear it

Music makes me know that there are others who have fanciful dreams and when I loose my self after drifting off some were I know that there is more to life than paying bills and being a dullard, music is the freedom, escape and as I get older it has become my time machine and my 3D photo album of half forgotten memories with very real tastes, smells textures and feelings. I suppose that Northernsoul fills the biggest gap and most tracks make me at least smile where some can bring a tear to my eye. Many are disposable but the connection I make to the ones that aren't leave me breathless. I don't do the mainstream as a rule until November time comes and I go to Blackpool Weekender, can't get over these memories. I like to save them up and go every now and again to let an emotional wash bath me in the warmth of my youth, then I'll get a kebab and walk home and try to do our lass without my sister in law waking up to remind us it was cheaper to share a room.

I can not say from any experience, but I am 99% sure that Helen Shapiro "Tell me what he said" was played at the Casino? Can any one confirm this please?? Whilst we are on the Casino, did the floor ever clear and what too? And who was the DJ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioJNc5OkIas\ Is this it kev?

mega Dave you brave man :-)

BRILLIANT KORNERS - THREE LONELY GUYS (MODERN) Can't find a clip for this, sorry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YzfJjPfhXE Thanks Barney, I just dont want any one to fall out, her is a record for ya xx I know you love it Its one of my all time faves and one that made me look over the edge for soul. I will go to hell for it I know but........... how can I tell her?

sarahleen not you.

I think the topic has now disintegrated into people taking pops at each other, time to close it I think. keep the faith

Modernsoulsucks why do you find it necessary to fathom where I am coming from? Should it matter if I like Helen Shapiro and Tom Jones? I do. I never ever even hinted that oldies were bad? Northernsoul is a broad church. I can appreciate all music, I have an open mind. I love oldies but my point is that there is a heck of a lot of people who won't listen or dance to any thing other than the Wigan sounds. I don't walk off the dance floor shaking my head in disgust every time I hear Frank Wilson but at the same time I don't want to be at a venue where a copy of Frank Wilson is the depth of the record box. I am not a one type of music fan and to assume that just because I can post about other flavors of our music sells me very short. I am not an anti sixties boy, I am a good music boy. I have my Blackpool Weekender ticket booked and paid for and I will have a great time listening to the classics, I will also be at Bidds on the 12th and then Maxims on the 21st of November and every nighter in-between that offers me a chance to hear some thing good and some thing rare or new. My original and first post stands and I have heard nothing yet to convince me that there are a lot of people who can not appreciate Northernsoul music properly, you can like Frank Wilson, Helen Shapiro and Tom Jones and Newies................... Honest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMvTPpN_X20 Jocko two things 1. Don't you ever slate Patrick Hernandez! 2. Er I think I actually started this thread? Right teddies back in the pram, I apologies unreservedly to any soulsourcer who has been offended at my childish postings on here, hows that Jocko? Now lets stop playing silly buggers and get back to a decent debate.

Oi Jocko, what have I done to warrant that little dig? Never offended you mate, never even met you before so why take a swipe at me? You start an essay with a cheap shot at me, why? Can we all please refrain from being personal or we will end up having this thread closed, Jocko make your point mate but please don't get personal, PM me if you have a gripe, I am big enough and ugly enough to take it but doing it on a thread and hiding it at the top of your passage is the mark of a coward!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj0g37AJw1I Listen to this a few times, three will do. You dont have to like it but try :-)

Exellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The thing about "unity, strength of numbers" is going to become a bit of a red herring on this thread. The scene was an underground scene or at least described as underground due to its size and distance from the main stream. I like to think we are still away from the mainstream but the paradox is that we have a mainstream within our group and yes it is large when comparing the numbers attending Stoke to say the 100 Club. James I think we both agree that there are numbers and unity within a large portion of our scene. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John I am not suggesting a venue gets a grading, I am suggesting that a venue promoter should state clearly what he/she is offering rather than some imagined concept based on a broad brush explanation. I am saying that there is a too often a disparity of what you get at the venue compared to what you read on the flyers now days. I think a promoter should be more up front and a little more descriptive on their advertising rather than leave it to word of mouth. Word of mouth is great and it works on the local scene and on the nighter scene to an extent but the majority of people who have contributed to this thread have a shared experience which is one of disappointment and this is true for either side of the fence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD9oSpPeybY James I have to refer back to my original point and question, "are we failing as a music scene" Historically (Is that the right word?) The Northernsoul Scene was born out of a resistance to being spoon fed the normal dross spawned from radios and the local chicken in a basket night clubs with their strict dress policy and reluctance to play anything other than the commercial staple of the day, this is well documented and most of the first Northernsoul CD's happily proclaimed this on their covers. The scene was never about as you say "unity, strength of numbers", it was about an individual breaking away from the norm and stealing into the night as most were returning from their weekly bop. The image of a young man or woman slipping into the shadows clutching a nighter bag and walking diffidently into a club. That club did not emit a welcome all creed, it exuded a dark and unknown ambience far away from Tiffany's or Romeo and Juliette. It was only after the media became aware of the "Happening" that this became "Trendy" The music was never about finding a sound that could be moved into a sub main stream, again it is well documented that track that became popular were dropped like "Hot potatoes". Fast forward to today, yes we do have the same tracks but these have entered into the sub mainstream, of course they are still good tracks but they have become a mill stone around the original concept of Northernsoul, we should be able to have both and yes we do have some venues who can blend both the sub main stream and the less known but that is the rub, most venues and it seams most people now are unable to accept any thing other than the tried, tiered. No one would ever argue that there are excellent venues and no one could argue that there are people who will listen to the diversity of Northernsoul but the fact remains, we now have a majority who can not abide Northernsoul. (Just to clarify that statement I want to establish that liking only a part of Northernsoul precludes you from stating that you like Northernsoul, it's like saying you love cheese burgers but you take the burger out, bad analogy but you get my drift?) So what is the answer? Well we can't fix people; people will like what they like. We can't fix promoters' and DJ's; they will play what they like. What we can fix is the way venues advertise them selves, "An across the board music policy" or "Rarest of the rare" or "Anthems" What we can do is have an agreed description for the type of music served and no I am not trying to lead any one into an ally here, we have a standard way of grading records such as Vinyl Descriptions: New: New Sealed: Record is in it's original seal and has not been played. Mint: Mint (as new). In perfect condition. EX: Excellent. The record has no major marks or audible faults. It has been played, but well taken care of. EX-: Excellent minus. The record shows some sign of having been played, but has very little lessening in sound quality. On an LP perhaps one or two tracks will have faint crackles or pops. VG+: Very good plus.The record has been played regularly. There may be visual marks on the disc that are beginning to sound e.g. crackles on several tracks. VG: Very good. The record has been played regularly and is showing signs of wear . There will be visual marks, and surface scratches, thus there will be audible pops and crackles. Or the pressing run may be poor, causing hiss. G. Good. The record has been played many times, affecting the sound quality with pops and crackles, because of surface scratches and wear. Or it may be related to a poor pressing (see above). Will be intrusive if the music is quiet, but will play. Any grade below Good, would indicate a record is not playable, because it may jump, stick etc. The vinyl would be effectively worthless, only of use as a collection filler. Couldn't we have a better way of describing what we are about to receive at a venue before setting off to drive an hour or three and before the great bun fight starts? What would the descriptions be?

Keb Darge told me that there are mountains of records all over the place like Detroit. Get past the language barrier and it's suppose to be Shangri-La Remember how many Japanese imports show up. Are there many ex pats there now on the soul scene? I have a mate who is ex Army there and I would like to hook him up, not that he needs it.

Fair point mate, I am doing 50 star jumps :-)

Barney that is just not true mate. You have two scooters, one is a Vespa GTS 250 ie automatic, a new progressive modern scooter dripping with cutting edge technology. Your other scooter is a classic sixties Italian Lambretta, both should be equally accepted on the scooter scene but this is far from the case as you well know it. We both know that in certain quarters of "tarn" the GTS will be sn*****ed at yet turn up on your Lambretta and the same knob heads clamber all over ya. Barney we both ride and love scooters and we both have classics and modern autos, dare I say we are both progressive on the scooter front with a love and a respect for both. The analogy of the scooter scene stands mate, compare this to the stuck in the mud soulie who can not, will not, dare not accept, hear, dance or enjoy any thing out side of the box marked played safe. Besides, you wear women's shoes

thanks for that Ken, guess you know all about what happened there last weekend on the vespa club run? Could you sling up the play list along with what butch played please

mike can we get this back up to all about soul please, there is some thing happening in Japan and we could do to know mate, delete my last two posts as well please mate.

Richard Serling walks up to a dancer at the end and says............ "Guess what...................." The clip ends abruptly here, can we have a caption type comp to finish Richards words off? "Guess what...................." I've lost the plot