Everything posted by Barry
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Where Do Northern And Modern Meet?
I tried to follow this thread to the end but loss interest a bit. I'll give you my take on it anyhow. They don't - and never will. To ask the question means you either don't understand and are looking for direction or you do understand and are looking for an insight. I'm going for the latter. You have either the ability to love 60's music - or 60's music and 70's/80's/da di da music. Now if you love only 60's stuff, I have no doubt that you are very intelligent and have a great life just loving that....but....stop thinking about your car, and your 52" Bravia and your recently restored Scooter (that you didn't have in 1980) and you too could have a much more fun-filled, and less bitter, life. You don't even have to come on forums like this to pass on your sh*tty-bitterness, you could just sit at home and bang you Willi J & Co mp3 on and enjoy it. You see the secret is simply to do it for yourself. Nobody else matters. And if you think they do - you've missed the point. Easy.
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Unbelieveably Played At Wigan
...and Phyllis Hyman's 'You Know How To Love Me' was simply one of Wigans biggest moments for me. A genius Searling moment. Now I don't know if you know but Phyllis appeared in Playboy magazine in 1980 (biggest selling PB in years as it happens), as she was a true beauty but I don't know if you know how she ultimatley exited this world....I hate to be negative but this has always stuck with me as I loved the woman's music...check it out.... a sad loss to our world and an for nothing. Go to your normal Northern nights and see lukewarm/sparse floors. Then play 'YKHTLM' and see the girls flush the floor with true Soul feeling. Phyllis Hyman's track is as stitched in a Northern Soul track as any sixties record you could mention.
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Unbelieveably Played At Wigan
Does no one understand that without 'yesterdays Northern Scene plays', todays would not have been possible? It is 'stab in your eye' simple. To actually become good at something you have to make mistakes. Now, I use the word 'mistake' loosely. Hindsight is something that is utilised and easily preyed upon. To the newbies: "Your forebears wrote the book, laid the (Khan) law down, danced for you and made 'your' hindsitical mistakes for you." Without the aforementioned (in your minds) 'mistakes', you'd have feck all. Show a tad of the adult in you and have a little respect for something that, if you were there, you obviously didn't understand and if you weren't there, you can't (but should) understand. Progression is borne of the dancefloor - dancers, the scene (I'm sick of pointing this out), NS at the time tells it's own story - don't make the mistake of reading the last paragraph and thinking you know the whole story....you weren't there to help write it. All the high-lighted tracks above, were not worthy of ridicule, the jocks felt them worthy of play - the dancefloor asked for and accepted them, Northern Soul was delivered, in todays form, to your doorstep. Nuff said.
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You Know The Weren't
M's track for me Crystal Grass - Crystal World.....the Sooty and Sweep track....more Sweep - if you know, you know!
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cue-burn'
Now Malc, I love you; Mark - I've met you; and Monster..we don't know each other but: As far as I am concerned this urban 'cue-burn' myth phallacy simply cannot have come about from the age-old sticking yer needle on and rocking it back and forth on the first beat...think about it!? The only reason you'll get a 'HISS', for however long the 'HISS' is, can surely only be due to the fact that at the 'HISS' point there was too much pressure on the stylus - that much pressure that the vinyl/styrene could not cope with it and gave in. Now 'winding back' a track is virtually the same as letting a stylus play the way it is designed....now, don't give me the old line that vinyl is pressed to play a certain way, right to left as it were, and playing against the grain could cause undue stress, as that explanation is bobbins. 'Cue-burn' is caused by heavy handedness alone - being a klutz when placing the stylus onto your record or wacking a track off, with yer big Yorkshire fingers, half way through it causes 'cue-burn' and nothing more. I've wound records of mine back for fecking years and have never acquired the "record collectors way out of Klutzism" - that is... 'cue-burn' on any of 'em - so can we safely pack this urban myth Room 101 please? Get your SOS pressing of Judy Street out and try it.
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cue-burn'
Malc! Don't be so random at this time of the morning, I'm struggling as it is mate.
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Unbelieveably Played At Wigan
A very anal, yet understandable, thread borne from the need to be accepted. Basically yet another stab by someone I would understand has never put his balls on the line to step up to the plate and be a 'DJ'!? A negative post at heart but I understand it's root to an extent....mate....we can all look back over 30 years of listening and pick on the low points - the low points (not by my standards, by yours), made by a number of DJ's over a heavy number of years. Now I'm not having a pop, I actually think it isn't a bad thread, but focus on the plusses mate. Is 'plusses' a word?
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cue-burn'
Exactly how is 'cue-burn' (??) believed to come about? I see some odd things spoken about rewinding a track being the cause. Anyone enlighten me? I know how I see it coming about but how does the boards general conscencus explain it?
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You Know The Weren't
What a fantastic track. Japanese only release on 12" at first. Barry May, by the way he he. Did we thumb it somewhere the follwoing morning mate? And did you have 'tache at the time? I think i'm Remebering. Was this Morecambe 'Super'dome time?
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You Know The Weren't
Just as an add on, Mr Lord was my sisters husbands, Best Man. Ace.
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You Know The Weren't
Have you read Julian Cope's tomes by any chance? I stumbled on Teardrop Explodes at school with their 'Kilimanjaro' album (bought it off my history teacher, Mr Lord, who was Thalidomide - he used his affliction (not to say it was an affliction but could be read by some as such)to his advantage though...he used to twat us on the top of the skull with a massive bunch of keys, utilising his added arm-torque to administer pain for late homework, 'whatever'...another of his penalties was to make you cut the grass outside our class window with nail scissors during lesson. Genius!! Anyway, 'Kilimanjaro' was released prior to 'Reward's chart sucess and re-issued with the track included, with the addition of a wanky zebra-african sleeve, instead of the original band aimed photo cover. I'm wandering a bit here but Cope's opening oratory gambits, 'Head On' and 'Repossessed' are singularly riveting. As Julians brother Josh said, mis-quoting Stephen Fry (wink),..."there are those of us that lie in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the kerb!" They are classic books mate.
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You Know The Weren't
It's a nice thread this, it has allowed people to drop their guard to some extent. It's funny how this kind of thread is accepted, when it deals with unrelated All Nighter material yet other threads regarding played Nighter material attract ire. It's all good.
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The Soul 45
Pete you didn't mention what side of the street that house was on and so anecdotal evidence in support of your unwarranted questioning of my interpretation of the rules is unadmissable under 411 section C. Laminated hand-bound copies can be ordered from myself at £29.99 which I think you'll agree is under £30. Fantastic use of 3/4 syllable words there M. 'inadmissable' btw.
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You Know The Weren't
MAW have quoted this to be one of their major influences - still, a bad ass, stand up dance track. Never left my box and have dropped it mid (House) set for years - I'll never bore of it and it never, EVER, fails. Good shout!
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You Know The Weren't
At the risk of repeating myself, played in M's on more than one occassion.
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You Know The Weren't
Bradford play.
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Best 'second Room'
Phil Webb, pm me with your phone number mate.
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Top Trumps
Just had a thought about a 'Venues' deck. Imagine your mate going with a 'Dancefloor' Trump card and it was Hinckley Leisure Centre, and you are thinking 'Ah! I'll have him here, it was a shit dancefloor, full of basketball markings and sports hall shit'....and then you pull out a Notts Palais card - 'Bollox! Revolving dancefloor!'
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Memory Clothing
....Wigan long leather at me Ma's (you know how they hide stuff in their drawers for years!?) the other day...and the stench of it - that lovely stench that spun me back 25 years - was just the bomb. I tried it on, which felt good on it's own, but - How tiny was I then? Feck me, there's a good six inch between buttons. That coat in one sniff brought back getting on the 604 with the Warrington punks, shitting myself walking past Trux punk club under the bridge after getting off the bus, the little leather and sheepskin coat check room to the left of the bar up on the balcony, getting legged through Wigan town centre by Chink and his bunch of Wigan c*nts (Giz yer money!!), walking through Bryn on the way home on sunny Sunday mornings and a million more memories. I'm sure that leather don't just smell of leather anymore - each piece must have it's own distinct aroma. Or am I taking this too far?
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Dj Or Collector
Cunnie, firstly I do love you...but! DJ-ing is an art, a science almost. Their are 'collectors' and there are 'collectors' (said in a knowing yet hushed, serious monotone)[1]. DJ's don't wear elasticated waist-bands and need to nip to the toilet every three records - 'collectors' do. [1] Oooooh!!!
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Top Trumps
Seeing as Modersoulsucks can do badges, could we compile a set of Northern Soul Top Trumps cards, venues, DJ's, drugs etc for him to put up for sale. Oh, the fun!
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Get Over It
Here's one of 'em! Oh! Did I type that out loud?
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Get Over It
Without pointing 'em out, there are some really - I mean REALLY - eye wateringly w*nk responses on this page haha.
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Get Over It
But Bazza, they are not. They have all the knowledge of the big guns, but not the wallet. Now you can argue that major DJ's have more 'Soul' as they spend more - but in reality they haven't - it is an earner for them - and that earner deems they spend more. It's a job and people invest in their work. You will never tell me that one mans view of Northern is of less value than anothers, simply for the fact that he has not the means to buy big money records. That is un-arguable.
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Dj Or Collector
Good shout mate but you can't drive without first learning to drive. To work a floor you first have to have been worked. To understand what is required, you simply need to know what is required - and that comes from the floor - not the collection. Mate, I know what you are aiming at and am in no way having a pop, your response was bang on.