Donkit Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Can anyone tell me what they are ? I've been told they are boots / carvers ? but I honestly don't know ? Any info would be appreciated. cheers Don Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sharmo 1 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Do you mean Jamaican Pre's ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Donkit Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) Do you mean Jamaican Pre's ? Seen a lot on Ebay and all seem to be of Jamacian recordings. Edited June 21, 2012 by donkit Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest john s Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 A large number of Jamaican releases (from the 50's onwards) were initially released as white labels ('blanks'). Some were later released as labelled copies, a lot more weren't, for many different reasons - and when they were, they often weren't the same A/B-side coupling as the blank. Some of the rarer ones have been bootlegged, and often artificially 'aged' to add the deception. It's a bit of a minefield, really, but a lot of brilliant music is only available on that format... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 As John says above, they're the equivalent of promo copies really. I'm a bit split over Jamaican or UK blanks though, I'd much sooner have a labelled copy and I can't see a lot of difference between a blank and a carver. From experience, the majority of blanks that come onto the market are always very well used. 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Do you mean Jamaican Pre's ? Yes he does, though pre's usually describe later releases I think (mid 70's onwards) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 on a ja blank the sound quality can be better than a uk press ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest MissHongkongfuey Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I found it such a minefield that I have given up collecting it. I just don't have the knowledge of them. Instead, I just listen to other peoples collections and appreciate their sounds. Far cheaper that way!!! There are some very knowledgeable people on this site always happy to give a helping hand with info though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 on a ja blank the sound quality can be better than a uk press ! Agree, I think that's because a lot of the UK releases were dubbed directly off Jamaican vinyl copies. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andybellwood Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 As John says above, they're the equivalent of promo copies really. I'm a bit split over Jamaican or UK blanks though, I'd much sooner have a labelled copy and I can't see a lot of difference between a blank and a carver. From experience, the majority of blanks that come onto the market are always very well used. like this one ? https://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHNNY-MOORE-BIG-BIG-BOSS-REGGAE-/180909113053?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2a1f05fedd Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andybellwood Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Agree, I think that's because a lot of the UK releases were dubbed directly off Jamaican vinyl copies. Hi Pete , would this one of those ? https://www.ebay.com/itm/69-REGGAE-DOCTOR-BIRD-BLANK-45-JOHNNY-MOORE-LOVE-KISS-BLUE-UNIQUES-SECRETLY-/150836397693?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item231e8cc67d Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Hi Pete , would this one of those ? https://www.ebay.com/...=item231e8cc67d It would. F*cking hell am I kicking myself, about 2 years ago I GAVE AWAY the Jamaican blank of this to Brian Kelson, he bought a box of British off me and I said oh, there's about 20 blanks in that bag, you might as well have them...I didn't realise Love Kiss Blue sounds like an instrumental version of The Hamlins - I Don't Care At All. By the way, I can't see why anyone would pay that money for a blank, may as well wait for a labelled Doctor Bird one to come up. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 like this one ? https://www.ebay.com/...=item2a1f05fedd That's a rare one, came out on UK too. Fortunately I still have a copy of this one. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 my blanks cost me less than a uk or ja issue and blanks are the first issues and not carvers ! Made to gauge popularity on the sound systems before gaining a labeled release and if they were often a differant cut Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 my blanks cost me less than a uk or ja issue and blanks are the first issues and not carvers ! Made to gauge popularity on the sound systems before gaining a labeled release and if they were often a differant cut I know they are the first issue but a blank label is a blank label - thats why I compared it to a carver - black vinyl, white label. As opposed to a labelled copy. Wasn't saying they weren't the originals, I know what they are, I've got enough of 'em. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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