Kegsy

PM'd you.

Ok mate.

It would not surprise me if either of the above occurred. Where is Tom now ?. Are you still in contact with him ?. A lot of water has gone under the bridge, maybe he could tell you something nowadays.

Once again no reason to doubt any of what you are saying. However if Simon had lifted it, I think the world and his wife would have known by now.

That's the flip I'm In Love Again

We have finally found a topic we can agree to disagree about.

The Debonaires 1970 single also has writer/composer as unknown.

Kinnel Pete, I've got enough trouble trying sort out Revilot/Ric Tic/Golden World/Solid Hit without you bringing Impact into it.

The other thing is there were no other Revilot records ever released on Stateside. Although the did release Just Like Romeo and Juliet from Golden World. No Ric Tic on Stateside either. It does look like things were leased record by record but what bloody daft way to carry on.

I'm beginning to wish I had not stated this topic.

That's probably because Mick Smith & Dave Kil currently have him trussed up in a warehouse somewhere near Stevenage so he cant sell it to anybody else. Nick is beginning to develop Stockholm Syndrome.

True, only via the Solid Hitbound connection I suppose. Then there's the fact artists like Rose Batiste, J.J. Barnes Etc seemed to swap between them. Makes you wonder if there's a version of Open The Door etc by Edwin Starr on a dusty tape somewhere. If it was found would be come out on Decca/London/Stateside or Polydor, AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

I can see you point on the Edwin Starr Ric Tic stuff. However Track released Revilot/Solid Hitbound singles in 1969/1970 too. So how come Stateside could re-issue Darrell Banks in 1969. They also released backtrack 6 in 1970 which had Ric Tic/Revilot and Solid Hitbound stuff on it and Tamla Motown UK had the Ric Tic rights in 1968 as show by the Fantastic Four release. I could understand all this if Motown , only had the rights to Ric Tic releases made after the purchase of ric tic in 1968, but that cant be right either as double o soul came out in the UK in 71 but was pre buyout.

Now we know the true origin of John Manship's auction descriptions .

Bit of a spin off from the Darrel Banks London Issue thread. I'll be as simple as I can with this. Its something that has puzzled me for yonks, here we go. 1966 Darrell Banks on London. (Decca) 1966 Darrell Banks on Stateside. (EMI). 1967 Al Kent/Parliaments on Track (Polydor). 1967 J.J. Barnes on Polydor 1970 Dedonaires on Track (Polydor) 1970 Backtrack 6 Track album All pretty chronological so far with the rights passing from Decca to EMI to Polydor. 1966-1970 So how come. 1966 two Edwin Starr Ric Tic singles on Polydor. 1967 one Edwin Starr Ric Tic single on Polydor. 1968 one Edwin Starr Ric Tic single on Polydor. 1968 Fantatic Four I Love You Madly on Tamla Motown (EMI) 1969 Stateside (EMI) re-issue Darrell Banks. Maybe the answer is companies just buying rights to individual records,but given the amount published by Track/Polydor I cant see it.

If it ever comes up for sale don't think many serious UK collectors wives will think its a joyous occasion, "you're gonna spend how much on another f*cking piece of plastic".

Oh dear, this is gonna put the cat amongst the pigeons. I have no reason to doubt anything you say Robbk before I start. The conventional thinking has always been there were 2 known copies of said record, although there have been countless rumours about a third. Both of them are promos without the mauve Soul logo, just plain black and white, unless I'm sadly mistaken. Your post now makes that up to at least 5 known copies, its beginning to be a hell of a week in the world of northern soul collecting.

I've turned up the Volumes on pama records loads of times. Especially the ones by the Mohawks. I'll get me coat.

No I bought it, top condition at a very good price too I may add.

Sorry mate just a failed attempt at humour.

I have a Revilot copy you can have, at least you would dare to play that one.

I wondered how much it would be for you to actually clean a record before you posted it out

The other factor, on the sale of this is, its probably limited UK to collector demand. How many U.S./Japanese buyers will be interested compared to the Motown etc. "full set" collectors that wanted Frank Wilson, or some of the Shrine stuff that John has sold recently ?.

I know what you mean, if I had got the true value off Steve and Soul Sam on 70's stuff I would have been bidding on the last Frank Wilson. No complaints really though I usually paid about 5 cents for them in the first place.

Pete, are you saying Steve Plumb sold you a record cheapish. That a bigger surprise than that Darrell banks issue.