Ady Croasdell

Was there a demo of Love Bound?

Following on from the closed thread, did she respond Shute? Ady

Interesting sidestep there Dave, i don't think Tony wanted a scrap. Zoot Money became good friends with Zoot on his visits here. I just found a great acetate version of Lou's 'Who Is It Now' by Dee Dee Warwick; taken a bit slower than Lou's.

So why the artist, producer, arranger, writer and title changes? He couldn't have done more to screw it up apart from sing it himself. He obviously didn't have access to the correct recording or songwriting information and the reason for that is bleeding obvious. You want to believe it because he tricked you and Goldmine into giving him a load of money for something he never had the rights to; it wasn't just the US label owners who he fooled.

It was Sherlie who told me who it was! I don't think there's any dispute as to the artist, just a frank and open exchange of views on the career of someone who shamed the Northern Soul scene in his business dealings.

No there's nothing incorrect in there.

Is that definitive and should I assume you know because of your handle? If so with Madelon direct or through Soussain? Thanks Ady

Ooh i do get on my high horse don't I! It's just knowing some of the participants like Sherlie Matthews and the raw deal they get pisses me off. Perhaps we'll do one or t'other as a Kent Select vinyl release then there won't be any quibbles.

Yeah the label looks too good for a bootlegger. Perhaps it was a custom press by Madelon for Soussain before things went sour, or for a UK importer like Selectadisc.

No problem Kev, i was just petulantly stating my position! Cheers Ady

I must have missed that consensus then Kev!

No problem Shute, I'm sure it won't be the last time we disagree:lol:

Thanks Roger, whaddya reckon boot, pressing probably not original from the look of the vinyl. More 70s than 60s, I'd say.

Is this a boot or a later pressing? If anyone remembers the story on it at the time, I'd love to know. Thanks Ady

I also met Audio Arts owner Madelon Baker whom Soussain clearly hadn't put you up to speed on as she was a woman, not a man as you once described her. She told me that Soussain stole tapes from her and as no paperwork was ever found of a deal between Soussain and Randy Woods in his extensive papers, that scenario may well have repeated itself and would explain the instrumentals. If he had paid any money he would have had a receipt at the very least to show you guys that you were licensing from a legitimate source. As you don't appear to have any copy of such a piece of evidence, I think it was very naive of you at the very least to a) believe him, license from him.

It's a boot, the artists and songwriters were never accounted to, but it's totally up to you if you play it; the world won't end!

"Tony is way off in his description of Soussan stealing Mirwood tapes. Randall Wood the former owner used Soussan as a cash source when he hit hard times(fact!) SS was certainly a colourful character, but he was legit in his purchase of Mirwood tapes. The problem is, he didn't tie up paper work correctly, hence the conspiracy theories. Ace dealt with another 'Mirwood owner' and they believe they have the rights. Good luck to them. As former label manager at Goldmine, I helped Ace along with Goldmine reach a satisfactory conclusion. Soussan on this occasion has cleanish hands....in my humble opinion." No we dealt with THE Mirwood owner who had all the relevant paperwork from buying the company. You "helped" Ace inasmuch as conceding that you didn't have the rights. If Simon was legit why did he change the titles and artists on the boots? They are not OV, as for it to be valid in the eyes of serious collectors and DJs, who care about it, it must also be a legitimate pressing.

I Wanna Do Everything For You Baby by the Mirettes is the true identity of Let Me Do It by the Belles. Both are out on Mirwood CDs. Two different versions of the Jackie Lee, one on the Story one on his solo CD

Actually Geoff it's an end of February release and should be in the shops any day. At least one punter's had his from Amazon already. As I mentioned on another thread, Lou get's a particularly good royalty rate on this CD due to an anomaly in the licensing, so every purchase will directly help an artist who hasn't had the best of health recently.

That's because you're quality!

Are you sure Mick, i thought it was only the vocal back then? The inst was much later and I've never heard it out.

Actually it was me and funnily enough Keb was trying to get my copy off me quite recently.

Couldn't get that listing Chalky but there were plenty after 1970

Kenard was late 80s or early 90s as far as I remember.

It's a ridiculously dated sound to be released in 1970. odd.