Pete S

I rang him to confirm what time I should go pick them up and hand over the money on saturday - he tells me he sold them several days ago because they offered a grand more than me...after already accepting my offer

Oh hang on, I'm talking about someone else here. But the guy with the Connie Stevens record does know about soul, he sells enough of it.

you're selling a vg+ copy of a Grapevine album and a Destiny single and you ask people to be sensible?

Well me for one, and I didn't come back cos I was scared of hearing Rosey Jones.

He knows enough about them to keep turning them up and getting the likes of me to sell them and get interest in them though..

You good people at the Soul Mine, it would have been polite if you'd told me you were coming up to buy the collection that I had already shook hands on after my offer was accepted. Oh and of course it would have been nice if Reg Fradgley had had the guts to ring me and told me he'd sold them to someone else. Never mind the fact I was still selling my best reggae stuff this week and borrowing left right and centre so I'd got the money in place for collecting them on saturday. So thanks a lot, you deserve each other.

Late 77 or early 78

This is one of the worst records I've ever heard and as good a reason as any for burning down the Casino.

Well you can keep saying this but I'm telling you that just as many left because of it as were converted by it.

There's too many different enterpretations of the word shuffling to explain here.

Yeah so can I

Just calling it as I remember it - those new 70's releases were uptempo, driving-beat, dance records. Many were as good as 60's releases.

Is that meant to be a good thing?

Because, to repeat myself for the 100th time, the majority of the 74 to 76 sounds were still uptempo tracks with a 4/4 beat and not plodding shuffling shit like Larry Houston, that's why. The huge influx of British pop Northern in 78 didn't help, and yes of course people left, but the 60's newies of 79 to 81 compensated for those. No, it was modern that ruined the scene for good.

Curtis Lee & The KCP's (Everybodys Goin Wild - same backing track) also came out on CBS in the UK, must have been just before the Direction label was launched as Big Maybelle came out on Direction.

Yes, it sent people scurrying away like rats from a sinking ship never to return (until 20 years later)

Now this is an interesting point because my mate Tom went to Stoke saturday and he said to me, remember every saturday we used to go to Wigan, I always used to go in M's to dance and you always stayed in the big room learning - in other words moving with the times, getting to know the new spins and not relying on the oldies from the Torch Cats and Wheel. Because all he really wanted to do was get smashed and dance all night to his favourite records. I wanted to hear the new biggies. But anyway, I think thats why the majoroty of people went in M's, I don't think I went in more than a dozen times in 3 years.

You should have been at stoke on saturday, you'd be very worried. It's an old persons scene alright. I think if the scene ever does mutate, it'll be without us oldies and our 60's but become more of a free for all anything goes kind of thing based on enjoying yourself rather than record trainspotting.

Over 40 years so far and still going strong...

I can't, I promised it someone else in the separate thread. Granted, I haven't had it for 3 years previously, but I haven't wanted it or looked for it so that's what I base it being not that hard to find, because before then it was as common as Lil Soul Bros, that sort of thing.

No not really. I've had 3 of them but no Bernie Williams or Cheating Kinds. It's all relative.

It's the sheep mentality. Someone lists a record for £30 more than it's worth, then the rest have to follow because they think they're going to lose money, and instead they get stuck with the record for months. It's a shame we can't go back to pre-price guide days when knowledge was actually needed in this game. Now it counts for nothing because you've got freak auction results, moronic ebay bidders and inaccurate price guides. People try to sell recodds at 'proper' prices and the customers think there must be something wrong with the goods cos it's half the book price. How f*cking stupid is that?

Well you might be lucky on monday then...

The Wheelsville one should never be more than £60.