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Always liked Hold On Help Is On The Way - G Davis & R Tyler Harlem Rumble - Frank Foster Rhona's Theme - RPM Generation Fiddlin' Around - Don Renaldo love the Mirwood instrumentals as well - even if they may be a tad suspect in origin.

As usual somebody who doesn't seem to be too keen on a record (ie The Younghearts) tells us there are a thousand better records that have been played - they then list ten good records so as to illustrate that point. What I actually said earlier in this thread was I was looking for an alternative top 500 which are as good as if not better than the original list.

I also think it was via Inferno - over to you Mr Rushton.

When people who played "Police Story" - "Theme From Joe 90" & not forgetting that soulless turd "Interplay" thought it was a good idea. Why - well just listen to them

By your "rule of thumb" it is only All Nighters that have ever meant anything on this scene. I am sure people who attended The Catacombs - Highland Room - Blue Room Sale - Cats Whiskers Burnley etc etc. certainly don't class themselves as people "who like a bit of a jig,few pints". The Northern Soul Top 500 is regularly slagged off on this site - can somebody who is a "proper soulie" because he "does niters" furnish me with a list of 500 records played in the last ten years which are as good - if not better - than the original 500.

Pictures are OK - it certainly beats listening to them !!!!

One on Ebay "Buy It Now" for £4.99.

Don't think dumbing down is a new phenomenon to the scene. Huge TV & Newspaper coverage of this "underground" scene was brought to the masses over 30 years ago. Tailor made records - badges - record labels cashing in - they were all around in the seventies. As regards people voting with their feet I think you will find the more "commercial" the venue the larger the attendance. Of course people on here will argue that the attendees of thes gigs aren't "real soulies"(whatever that means). The scene is not perfect - it never has been - until something else is available that is better we have to live with it - warts & all - probably best just getting on with it & perhaps ENJOYING it !!!

Seem to remember Ian Levine saying the same thing - and that was thirty years ago!!!!!!!!!!

Think we have to face facts that the Northern Scene is no longer underground - it hasn't been for a good many years. Of course there are still little pockets where rare & underplayed soul is played. Think a lot of it goes back to the mid seventies when your local club would play "a bit of Northern Soul" alongside the pop tunes of the day. I can remember Dobie Gray, Creation etc. being popular with "non - scene" people back then. 30-40 years on these people have bought the CDs & attended a few nights & realised this is their comfort zone. They don't mind that eveybody is 45-60 years old - it is indeed this that makes them want to go to these gigs. Yes - a lot of these events have become the "School disco" for the over 40s.

Best thing to do is completely wipe Ms Winehouses voice off the record - put Marvin & Tammi in her place - now that would be a tune !!!!

Don't think I mentioned the records (they were fine) - noticed you didn't put The Carstairs in your list which got a spin. Thought Winstanley was classic when he slagged the southerners off for playing James Brown.

Yea - listened to it it - the predictable Levine/Winstanley "my records were better than yours" bollox was in there . Yawn Yawn.

Just dig out all your sixties female vocal 7's - flip 'em over & I am sure that is where your answer lies. Sorry Miss Spiteri in the words of Virgil Henry - "You Ain't Sayin' Nothin' New"

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PM'd you Phil with Al Waples soundbyte

Updated All in pristine condition. All purchased as new releases & never been in a sales box. The Four Tracks - Charade (Note) £300.00 Bill Brandon - The Streets Got My Lady (Piedmont) £300.00 Al Waples - Movin' On (Audio Arts) £60.00 Beloyd - Get Into Your Life-DEMO (20th Century) £90.00 Vilola Wills - The First Time (Bem Sole) £65.00 Jesse James - If You Want A Love Affair (20th Century) £45.00 - SOLD Betty Lavette - You Made A Believer Out Of Me (Epic) £50.00 - SOLD Ghetto Children - It's Not Easy To Say Goodbye/Don't Take Your Sweet Lovin' Away (Roulette) - Great double sider £50.00 - SOLD Cheques - Postal Orders - Bank Transfer only.

Modern & a Re-issue? Could be a tad too many sins in there.

It's very simple really - as my signature has said since the first day of me posting on here. All records were modern once !!!!!!!!!!!!!

To coin an old Major Lance phrase "It's The Beat"

Updated & 3 more added All in pristine condition. All purchased as new releases & never been in a sales box. The Four Tracks - Charade (Note) £300.00 Bill Brandon - The Streets Got My Lady (Piedmont) £300.00 Jesse James - If You Want A Love Affair (20th Century) £45.00 Betty Lavette - You Made A Believer Out Of Me (Epic) £50.00 - SOLD Ghetto Children - It's Not Easy To Say Goodbye/Don't Take Your Sweet Lovin' Away (Roulette) - Great double sider £50.00 - SOLD Al Waples - Movin' On (Audio Arts) £60.00 Beloyd - Get Into Your Life-DEMO (20th Century) £90.00 Vilola Wills - The First Time (Bem Sole) £65.00 Cheques - Postal Orders - Bank Transfer only.

Was just making the point with the "Modern soul sucks" - "if it's not sixties it must be crap" brigade that modern soul has always been part of the Northern soul scene. Truth be told The Brothers is a pure New York Disco record from the mid seventies - if people want to class it as a Northern Soul instrumental that is up to them.

This is where the modern/northern debate always falls apart. There are two types of modern soul to the average northern soul fan. 1. "Modern" - Crap Disco - wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. 2. "Modern" - George Benson, Esther Phillips, Gil Scott Heron, The Brothers etc - 'cos we all know that's not really modern because it was played at all niters so it must be Northern Soul.

I think you will find that Blackpool Mecca was the birth of the Modern Soul Scene - think Sam was still playing Northern when The Highland Room was playing new releases.

In 40 years time Northern Soul will still be Northern Soul. Will a record like Phyllis Hyman "You Know How To Love Me" still be classed as Modern Soul if you are take the general consensus on this topic so far? Bearing in mind that it will be over 70 years old by then.