Roburt

It's easy to see the sequence in which the print has been added on this label .... The data that has come off the original US label went on first (& this was done to a decent standard) ... thus it's easy to read the 75 Rockefeller Plaza, New York text. Next the 'MFG by DYNAMIC SOUND, 15 BELL RD' has been added on top in black ink (not to the same standard). Finally, the text that relates to the specific 45 has been added in silver ink (this going over the top of the black 'DYNAMIC SOUNDS' line which itself is on top of the New York address info). So once again it seems plain to me that a photo copy of the original US label has been made & then the local licensee has added their info over the top of the US label data.

A 1980's Ja Polydor 45 ...... It looks like the Caribbean licensee took some blank US Polydor labels & had them printed up properly (by photo copying the original blank & running off copies in a Kingston print shop). HOWEVER on this one they seem to have gotten the scaling wrong as the label when produced appears to be way too big to fit properly on a 45. The Ja Polydor blanks must then have been sent to the record label where initially the 'MFG UNDER LICENSE BY DYNAMIC SOUNDS' seems to have been added to them all -- the quality of this printing seems way inferior to the 'MANUFACTURED BY POLYDOR, NEW YORK' line. Then finally, the print that relates to this specific 45 seems to have been added. BUT as this label has been made too big for the single it was to be attached to, lots of the stuff printed towards the edge of the label has been lost .... so there is no Polydor logo (black half record) above the label name & much of the US manufacturing data line has also gone off the edge of the label .... The label has also been fixed off-centre, again not helping. Ja quality control strikes agin !!

A typical US Polydor 45 from the late 70's (for comparison purposes -- see next post ).... Well the 45 is typical, the producer (Frank Wilson; Spec-o-lite) & the group (Alton McLain & Destiny) weren't typical Polydor fodder ....

I think there are two distinct lots of Ja Atlantic 45's ....... 1960's ones that actually came out around the time the cuts were 1st released in the US ..... .. & then some 1960's Atlantic label 45's that seemed to turn up (looking if not sounding new) around 15 years or so later. It seems someone in Jamaica cottoned on to the fact that it was easy to sell some 1960's Atlantic 45's at the end of the 70's (?) & into the 80's. When I was scanning record shop racks (mainly in Cave Shepherd Dept Store & No.1 Record Shop Ltd -- both in Bridgetown, Barbados) you could find stuff by Don Covay & the Goodtimers (from 1962) & Ben E King (1965) alongside 1974 singles by the Persuaders,1975 offerings from R B Hudman, 1976 Mass Production cuts (actually on Cotillion), 1981 Kleer 45's and 1987 offerings from Levert & Miki Howard .... and neither of those record stores stocked 2nd hand items, all as new from the warehouse.

How come young uns can't sing (as a group) like this ???? It really is in danger of becoming a 'lost art'.

Is your EP the same as mine ? ...... 4 tracks -- Gimme Little Sign; Oogum Boogum Song; Baby You Got It and Me & You. Brenton was obviously quite popular in Italy, here's yet another of his I-tie 45's (a promo copy with different artist on tuva side) ...

The Jaggerz were of course involved with Gamble / Huff pre Philly Int. days .... the group kept going & were doing gigs in Pittsburgh in the mid 70's ........

But the same guy could also land 'white' gigs down at Miami Beach ....

It wasn't all one way traffic, with northern artists heading south to catch some sun in Miami .... ... Miami artists also traveled north to do live shows. Here one poles up in Baltimore .....

Back up to Harlem again now .....

A long standing Miami club was trying to re-establish itself in 1964 ..... Don't really think it managed the task, as it was known too well as a sawdust & beer type of place.

A 1964 show for Sidney Barnes old mate Billy Prophet ..........

A link to pieces on his passing ............ https://www.allaccess...amburro-passes- https://respeconize.com/2012/07/philadelphia-mourns-the-passing-of-radio-legend-joe-butterball-tamburro/

Jordi, I don't know if he was a rock drummer, but the postings were on the Soulful Detroit Forum. So at the very least the guy must have had an appreciation of the musical make-up of a good soul track. It puzzled me at the time, but I just left him to his opinion.

You're right, the Jamaican's just took a US label and took a photo of it & copied the photo (or whatever actual means was used back in the 70's/ 80's to capture an image) to make their version of various major American labels. .... so I admit, I'm totally wrong saying they photocopied these US labels ..... .... what they actually did was that they photo copied the US labels. ................... a completely different thing altogether (!?!?!?!). I can see now why that Mr. Rounce said I just develop wildly inaccurate theories that are all of my own invention.

Legendary Philly soul DJ Butterball has passed over to that great radio stn studio in the sky .... In 1964, Butter got his foot in the door at WDAS as an advertising salesman. He was soon nicknamed "Butterball" by the stn's Jimmy Bishop. Within a few months, he was a part-time DJ at the Stn and he soon began doing an oldies show. WDAS was by far the better for his on-air antics ....

I also loved the sound Henry Gibson made; the live recordings on which he backs up Curtis M are just sensational (IMHO) ... ... however I praised his percussion on another forum & a drummer came on to state that Henry's efforts were far from good (IHO). Can't say that I let the guys opinion change my appreciation of Henry's talents though.

So you will agree that the 'other' version of the Soul Children's Ja 45 isn't all of my own invention then ?? ... and as I have posted numerous label scans of Ja 45's utilising 'photo copied' US labels, they can't be of my own invention either. So maybe I'm not delusional after all, phew, I can sleep easy now.

It's most probably a Wilson Pickett on Ja Motown, from the period (1987) when he recut "In The Midnight Hour" (& a full LP) that escaped on Motown ..... ....

... and a few Jerri / Jerry Jones sides (produced by Jerry Williams) escaped on Pal (a Bra label). Pal & Bra Records were based out of P.O. Box 333, Tamiami Station. Mind you, I probably just made all of that info up !!

I have Brenton Wood tracks on a Brazilian EP (on the Som/Maior label), a German 45 (on Liberty) & a Spanish 45 (on Hispa Vox). All have picture covers but none feature "Psychotic Reaction".

You must be wrong Tim, coz if Tony doesn't have one of em, they can't possibly exist. Just like my Ja. Soul Children Stax 45 with an old style logo (or any of the numerous 'photo copied US label' Ja 45 labels that I have already posted up on this thread). After all, he has thousands of Jamaican pressed soul and pop 45s and so other label types can't possibly exist, especially any that have 'photo copied US label' type designs placed on them. Mind you, my problem is that I develop wildly inaccurate theories that are all of my own invention. I just hope that you are not as 'delusional' as I obviously am.

Hey stop messin about chasing Brenton's version of songs ... there's much better around .... my biggest craving (in this line) is the later version of "Gimme Little Sign" by little known marsupial Peter Andre. It's a very hard 45 to track down copies of coz it only made No.3 in the Aussie charts back in 1992. If anyone has a copy they'd be willing to sell me, then please mail to me at ...... .... Roburk C/O Rampton Hospital, Woodbeck, Nr Retford, Nottinghamshire

Ohh God, I'll have to go looking for that dimn Ja. Soul Children 45 now & it could be in any one of 60 boxes !!! ........... the wife ain't gonna be happy.

NO MAN, I was there ... like, serious man, in Kingston with Scratch & King Tubby. Me and Gregory Isaacs down on North Parade buying weed for Kegsy, then back in the studio with Scratch making mystical music. ... BUT seriously, if you're saying I fabricated any of the above label pictures or made up any of the actual data connected with records I posted scans of, then you are just SO WRONG.