Chalky

20 minutes ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

I assume then that the label design changed (and numbering)

https://www.discogs.com/label/596823-Vest-Records-2

https://www.discogs.com/label/188195-Vest

 

The Icemen on Vest is a red label, trying to find a scan which I know I used to have.

Flo Mar is Florence and either Scepter  Wand vice-president Marvin Schlacter or her daughter I believe.

3 hours ago, Kegsy said:

You've lost me now mate. Who/what on Vest.

The Icemen had a release on Vest as well, Le's Play That Song/ You Got A Style Of Your Own - Vest

2 hours ago, Mach said:

  Vest-had label chalky, the springers, every night and day?

No Vest.  Very rare.

41 minutes ago, Kegsy said:

The thing is the Icemen's Samar stuff was done with Johnny Brantley, George Kerr (Tra San) wasn't involved until Ole 9, the other ole 9 release tells us nothing. The ABC release was Bay Wes another George Kerr associated company, possibly in collaboration with Richard Tee or the Poindexters or even Johnny Brantley who used the alias Wesley occasionally (Gate Wesley Band). So once again we're back with the Samar/Marti Cantine connection.

As I have been revisiting this project another theme is also developing. Maybe Jimmy Norman is the key to the Samar roster of talent, he definitely had the connections..  His earlier career was at Good Sound and Little Star where he was heavily involved with the O'Jays. His Samar releases followed two previous releases on Polo out of Hollywood, he moved to California as a kid. One of the Polo and one of the Good Sound recordings involved Leonard Jewel smith, almost all of his work prior to Samar involved H.B. Barnum. He worked with Jimi Hendrix and Lonnie Youngblood, maybe connected to him after he wrote the lyrics to Time Is On My Side for Irma Thomas, which was a hit for the Stones. Johnny Brantley was also involved with Hendrix and Youngblood.

Jimmy certainly knew some heavy hitters, so what the hell was he doing recording at a tiny backwater label like Samar ?, all his previous work seems to have been done in LA..

 

who was behind the Vest release?

8 hours ago, Kegsy said:

Cheers Chalky, the topic is really about Marty Cantine, who he was and how he could attract some of the talent he did, to work on relatively unknown artists/labels etc. Lets face it Samar didn't break any pots in terms of sales. 

The Icemen for example, their 2 Samar releases and the Ole 9 one must have made next to nothing in sales, yet they still managed to get a release on a major label ABC, involving heavyweights like the Poindexters, George Kerr and Richard Tee. At the same time Kerr and Tee were also working with Troy Keyes, Florence Ballard at ABC, The O'Jays at Bell and Timothy Wilson at Buddah. Jimmy Norman also turns up as writer on one of the Troy Keyes songs. I better stop there as this could get way off topic otherwise.

The Tra-San Production on the Icemen is George Kerr and named after his daughters apparently.  As you say some heavyweights involved in the writing & production.

Last nights show (7th May 2020) Lockdown Special "My Life In 10"

Chris Taylor, Stephen Morgan and Stuart Raith all share "their life in 10".

As it says in the other topic....

Tan Geers: Cora Boykins (replaced by Elaine Jones) , Bobby Covington, Richard Quarles, Earle Beale and Bill Hagie 

TNJ's: Al Stroman, Joe Anderson, Barry Higginbotham, James Gost and Elijah Jones.

There is nothing to suggest they are remotely connected except they both have a connection with Plato Productions (Ron Bollon, Plato Theophilos).

Excellent reading Kegsy.  I'll have another read in a bit to digest it a bit more.

tape # 3

A live recording kindly provided by Mark Mellors of Clifton Hall c1981.  The first Dj is Chris Brady followed by Richard Searling and his then monster sounds.

1 hour ago, Stanley said:

still the same nothing moving for me guys

mines back to "in transit"

its scheduled for delivery on Wednesday originally so will see if that happens

This weeks show with three more listeners giving their Life in 10 records.

Excellent article Drew. 

Kent always to my knowledge done test presses.  A mate had the early Anniversary ones on test press and I’ve seen these the before for other releases.  Kent/ace promos were as far as I know the standard issue.

@Ady Croasdell will tell you more. 

On 28/04/2020 at 01:54, ratt said:

Can anyone give me info on one of my 'still' fave tracks, The Silhouettes-Not Me baby. It was pretty much only heard by me and mates at the Casino, and also pretty much not heard at all these days. What label and price would it be these days. Whenever I ask local DJ's if they can give it a spin, I just get blank looks or rueful shakes of the head.

The record has been played pretty much constantly throughout my time and its massive again these days. 

1 hour ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

There's a really nice write up about it here

https://www.thesilhouettes.org/not-me-baby.htm

The promo is a boot though, well not an original.  Only ever released with the Lp on the blue/green label. 
 

3 hours ago, Stanley said:

thats weird , the same has happened to mine also arrived in chicago on 28th.lets hope we get them soon bud

Makes you wonder what its been doing in Chicago for 20 days. I know times are not normal but freight is still moving and 20 days does seem excessive.

Like you say hopefully they will be with us soon. 

 Mine looks like it is on the move although it never left Chicago since the 8th....

April 28, 2020, 10:16 am 
Departed USPS Regional Facility 
CHICAGO IL INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTION CENTER  
Your item departed our USPS facility in CHICAGO IL INTERNATIONAL

DISTRIBUTION CENTER on April 28, 2020 at 10:16 am. The item is currently in transit to the destination.

 
April 28, 2020, 10:16 am 
Arrived at Regional Facility 
CHICAGO IL INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTION CENTER  

April 12, 2020 
In Transit to Next Facility 

April 8, 2020, 10:16 am 
Arrived at USPS Regional Facility 
CHICAGO IL INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTION CENTER  

April 8, 2020, 10:12 am 
Departed USPS Regional Facility 
OAK CREEK WI DISTRIBUTION CENTER  

April 7, 2020, 6:07 pm 
Arrived at USPS Regional Facility 
OAK CREEK WI DISTRIBUTION CENTER  

April 7, 2020, 3:53 pm 
Departed USPS Regional Facility 
MADISON WI DISTRIBUTION CENTER  

April 7, 2020, 5:05 am 
Arrived at USPS Regional Facility 
MADISON WI DISTRIBUTION CENTER  

April 6, 2020, 2:25 pm 
USPS in possession of item 
SPRING GREEN, WI 53588  
April 6, 2020 
Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS 

 

Last two weekends I have been converting old tapes we swapped BITD, I've added quite a few to my Mixcloud page, Driveller's Delights, Brian Goucher tapes and others.  Some interesting listening.

Dean Anderson is joined on the Sound of Soul ™ for another My Life in 10 lockdown special by Julia Kitchener and Richard Searling.  Some fabulous choices from both guests.

Had an Lp posted 6th April, reached Chicago Int Dist Centre 8th. In transit on the 12th. Been there ever since. 

I doubt Richard holds that view today, maybe back then as much of the Motown released then was pop/mor, chart based rather than a lot of the soulful stuff that has turned up since from the vaults

Here is this weeks show, should be all caught up now.  Three regular listeners Penni Raith, Rowena Morgan and last but not least Diana Taylor give Dean their "Life In Ten Records".

If anyone wishes to join in with their Life In Ten then below are the questions, just PM me you answers and I will forward them to Dean.

MY LIFE IN TEN

1. First Soul Song You Ever Heard.

2. First Rare Northern Soul Song You Remember?

3. First big all-nighter sound?

4. Record you associate with a specific venue?

5. Song you associate with someone special?

6. Song you hate?

7. The one you could never afford?

8. It’s naff but you like it?

9. Song you can’t believe is not bigger?

10. Song for your funeral?