Chalky

Nice one Joel, great footage, always had it down as a white singer Oh and apparently there is some footage out there of the Parliaments.

Mp3's are not allowed. Refosoul is down at the moment and no soundfile can be posted until this is up and running again.

I just see people out for a good night, regardless of whether they attend an "upfront" or an oldies promotion. The only difference I see is more emphasis put on the music from the "upfront" crowd. I can't see how anyone can get excited about going out to hear Ruby Andrews Just Loving You again and again and again.

Steve, my apologies if I miss read what you were trying to interpret but like Terry I get tired of ill informed comment from others who haven't even tried one of the so called "upfront" venues, as terry says they use such words as a cop out or an excuse. And Steve/Win the so called "upfront" crowd are the most fickle of the lot and we don't see many of them, those who want something different can't be bothered half the time. If it wasn't for the oldies crowd trying something different and actually enjoying Lifeline then there wouldn't be a Lifeline.

Then why give such an ill-informed opinion of what "upfront" promoters want? If Lifeline's promoters wanted an elitist night, for like minded people only we wouldn't hire a venue that hold 300 odd, employ some of the best DJ's at the top of their game, we'd hire a small venue and play to ourselves and save a fortune in the process. It's dance music, you might not hear it every week but it is dance music, that is what the scene has always been about, progression, the need to hear something new and the dance floor. You need people with attitudes, but that attitude has to be directed in the right direction and I've yet to see a promoter who promotes something different with the attitude that they don't want certain types at their venue. Just because they play something different doesn't mean they are out to exclude some. As for the hair, number two back and sides three on the top Spike says he doesn't think he would fit in, why not try it, he might just be surprised.

What a load of bollox, if you don't mind me saying. The "upfront" promoters as you call them want to attract everyone, the big difference is they don't want to hear the same records you hear basically week in week out up and down the country, that is it, no wanting a separate elitist scene (the while Northern Soul scene is elitist) and no wanting to keep the music to ourselves. There is a plethora of venues that cater for those that are simply in a comfort zone, unwilling to try anything new and are in the main in this mainly for the social aspect with the music a secondary factor. I keep reading comments like your s and others about upfront promoters and to be honest you don't have a clue. We don;'t want to keep it elitist, we don;t want to keep it for our selves, Lifeline has a good percentage of the oldies crowd in and by and large plenty of them have grown with the Lifeline experience and do now appreciate that not everything was and is 1975 Wigan Casino as some dinosaur DJ would have us believe is what Northern Soul is all about. Have you been to Lifeline Steve? If so when? Do you go to the Wilton, Thorne, Greatstone or the other venues that try and play something different, not because they want to keep it elitist or to themselves, nothing could be further from the truth, it is simply to see the scene progress or try and progress, after all that is what the Wheel, Torcha dn Wigan was about, new records every week. Now I know that can't be recreated, impossible, for a start the records are not there in the quantities they once were, but there are new tunes out there're and there are many forgotten or neglected records out there that deserve action on this wonderful scene. I say don't judge something by some misguided and ill informed views because that is all I usually read about the so called "upfront" scene, comments from some who haven't even been to the venues mentioned (and others I haven't). As for how people dress, I probably look more like Spike, brogues, fred perry's & skin head I must be an upfront dinosaur

Looking forward to this. Love the bit where he sticks the nut on TV presenter :-)

Does anyone know who the Marvels are? Was also released in Belgium on Frankie and Germany on Ariola, with Picture Sleeves. Do the sleeves give any info? Green and White UK Demo Was it released in france too...

Hope you are keeping well Louis. We rarely bump into each other these days but like Derek says you have always a good funny tale to tell, you should post more. Hope to see you soon Chalky

Yes but much of Wigan's early stuff was Wheel, Torch,Cats etc in with the new so same can be said of early Wigan and every venue after Wheel. Later Wigan just a progression of the earlier WIgan, except for the pop crap in the middle which set it back musically, maybe those there at the time loved it but musically it was one of the worst periods of NS history for many looking back. Searling playlist from '78 onwards, any DJ would give right arm for it, it has stood the test of time and almost all are Northern Soul Classics. How anyone can discount other periods in the history of the scene is beyond me. Any record played at a Northern Soul venue, whatever genre is a Northern Soul record. It isn't necessarily Soul Music, but it is northern Soul. I'd like to see this DJ's playlist? Does he not collect anything after say the scene circa 1975?

1988 according to Alan Walls. Post number 92 in the following topic. Says it was definitely 1988, he remembers it so well as Celtics Centenary year.

Does look good the Japanese PS.

Insist on the insurance as well or refuse to send it.

Goldmine Grading System which most use in US and is supposed to be used when grading for ebay... How to Grade Look at everything about a record. It's playing surface, it's label, it's edges...under a strong light. Then based on your overall impression give it a grade based on the following criteria: Mint (M) Absolutely perfect in every way. Certainly never been played, possibly even still sealed.(More on still sealed under "Other Considerations"). Should be used sparingly as a grade, If at all. Near Mint (NM or M-) A nearly perfect record. Many dealers won't give a grade higher than this implying (perhaps correctly)that no record is ever truly perfect. The record should show no obvious signs of wear. A 45 RPM or EP sleeve should have no more than the most minor defects, such as almost invisible ring wear or other signs of slight handling. An LP cover should have no creases, folds, seam splits or other noticeable similar defects. No cut-out holes, either. And of course, the same should be true of any other inserts, such as posters, lyric sleeves and the like. Basically, an LP in near mint condition looks as if you just got it home from a new record store and removed the shrink wrap. Near Mint is the highest price listed in all Goldmine price guides. Anything that exceeds this grade, in the opinion of both buyer and seller, is worth significantly more than the highest Goldmine book value. Very Good Plus (VG+) Generally worth 50 percent of the Near Mint value. A Very Good Plus record will show some signs that it was played and otherwise handled by a previous owner who took good care of it. Record surfaces may show some signs of wear and may have slight scuffs or very light scratches that don't affect one's listening experiences. Slight warps that do not affect the sound are "OK". The label may have some ring wear or discoloration, but it should be barely noticeable. The center hole will not have been misshapen by repeated play. Picture sleeves and LP inner sleeves will have some slight wear, lightly turned up corners, or a slight seam split. An LP cover may have slight signs of wear also and may be marred by a cut-out hole, indentation or corner indicating it was taken out of print and sold at a discount. In general, if not for a couple things wrong with it, this would be Near Mint. All but the most mint-crazy collectors will find a Very Good Plus record highly acceptable. Very Good (VG) Generally worth 25 percent of Near Mint value. Many of the defects found in a VG+ record will be more pronounced in a VG disc. Surface noise will be evident upon playing, especially in soft passages and during a song's intro and fade, but will not overpower the music otherwise. Groove wear will start to be noticeable, as with light scratches (deep enough to feel with a fingernail) that will affect the sound. Labels may be marred by writing, or have tape or stickers (or their residue) attached. The same will be true of picture sleeves or LP covers. However, it will not have all of these problems at the same time, only two or three of them. Goldmine price guides with more than one price will list Very Good as the lowest price. This, not the Near Mint price, should be your guide when determining how much a record is worth, as that is the price a dealer will normally pay you for a Near Mint record. Good (G), Good Plus (G+) Generally worth 10-15 percent of the Near Mint value. Good does not mean Bad! A record in Good or Good Plus condition can be put onto a turntable and will play through without skipping. But it will have significant surface noise and scratches and visible groove wear (on a styrene record, the groove will be starting to turn white). A cover or sleeve will have seam splits, especially at the bottom or on the spine. Tape, writing, ring wear or other defects will start to overwhelm the object. It is a common item, you'll probably find another copy in better shape eventually. Pass it up. But, if it's something you have been seeking for years, and the price is right, get it...but keep looking to upgrade. Poor (P), Fair (F) Generally worth 0-5 percent of the Near Mint price. The record is cracked, badly warped, and won't play through without skipping or repeating. The picture sleeve is water damaged, split on all three seams and heavily marred by wear and writing. The LP cover barely keeps the LP inside it. Inner sleeves are fully seam split, crinkled, and written upon. Except for impossibly rare records otherwise unattainable, records in this condition should be bought or sold for no more than a few cents each.

Bob, I don't doubt the way they grade in the US, far better than over hear, they tend to stick to the Goldmine system in many cases which says VG is worth 25% of a mint value. With the value of this record at around £1000, JM has it at £1200 in his book so take off VAT etc and you won't be far off a grand. I know Jim said he got £1400 but his was better condition and copies have turned up over the years. This seller is starting it at almost £650, 65% of the value and I guess he's hoping for more with the starting bid being so high. He also states it plays with faint static/crackle. My point was I believe it is way over priced and along with the one midweek buyers simply don't seem to be bothered about condition in relation to the amount of money they are parting with.

1988 I think Bryney, just over 4 years I think it ran for? whilst we're talking about the Scots Scene....

I don't doubt they are grand or so but that surely for ex/nm? Not vg? or are people not concerned with condition anymore. I wouldn't pay £700 or thereabouts for the one t'other night, it was knackered and this doesn't look any better.

It's not bad Mr Gilly

Here you go, Kitch's copy does credit Inez Foxx.....

It does have something,obviously goes down well with the dancers but vocally it makes me cringe. Can't remember what Kitch said, I'll see if I can find the old topic.

It can't get any worse

I once saw a video clip yonks ago but not a peep of it since. It had Keb dancing to Temptations - Forever In My Heart, fantastic who of dancing.

One on evilbay the other night fetched a ridiculous $1030..75. https://www.ebay.com/...#ht_1723wt_1413 This guy with another graded at VG is just as optimistic with a starting price $1000 https://www.ebay.com/...l-/310348654639

Friday 20th October 1st TAC Motown/Northern Soul Weekender (actually my birthday) top line up of acts. First Northern Soul Weekender at Yarmouth under TAC was 23/24/25 March, great line up too.