Paul-s

Johnny McCall - I Need You Webs - Its So Hard To Break The Habit .........telling it like it is!!

Hi mate.....19 walker court, Cambridge, Cb4 2RU look forward to it paul-s

thanks mate.

....you had to rub it in Pete!! Ive only got a bloody Skoda!!!

...how do you know that? Dont see you up north much mate. 1976 is when I started...not that its of any relevence.....just so you know , the world doesn't revolve around London! Its not quantity, its taking in the world around you and absorbing the experience....a bit like music....luckily, im still open to learning and listening. Thats the evolution of mankind mate! "My car is bigger than your car" type attitude merely emphasises the problem of you 'lads' and your dogmatic attitude. There is NO hierachy, so dont try and preach one to me....I dont recognise it. Age and time, as most know, doesn't always equal wisdom. As you so clearly demonstrate. This has been fun, but I have a life to get on with. I hope your disdain for me continues to dominate your life........x

That was my last word. Thanks Rachel.

only happens when people make uninformed generalisations based on hearsay or ignorance! if you are going to critisize something, make it an informed opinion eg. if you want to slag a play,at least see the play!? Then you can be specific and generate an intelligent response. There seems to be a sort of 'soul masons' response coming from you gentleman!"hear hear" "well said" etc. . Proof being, that this thread was about something else entirely, but got re-directed towards me by forces unknown Sorry if you see me as trying to be intellectually superior....but im not going to dumb myself down in order to respond to your dogma and bravado! I always prefer articulation to gesticulation!

articulate as ever...

Dave Evison!! Top bloke, Dancer! , dj!

After The Soul Injections - Stay Off The Moon Accent pm if you can help cheers PAUL-s

Emmett Gardner....superb and to have its day!!

CLASS!!

Also the story wasn't just about the casino, I felt that was just the backdrop (excuse the pun) to the story of four different people and their relationships with each other and their outlook on the future. Absolutely spot on!!

Dont think saying some is an "arse licker" for liking the play is very articulate and is, to me, VERY condecending! And, im sorry, slagging off something " a play is cheesy' without articulating why, is very ignorant, prejudice and condescending! Critisizing the play without seeing it is the ULTIMATE in condescending! A forum is about articulating a point and as you say, it does require intellect. I respond to people with the same respect that they show me.....like life. PAUL-S

Paul, I read the posts, and dont think Pete was having a dig. Its just a misunderstanding. point taken mate...

Thanks Mark....as you know, it was a labour of love. Not, a commercial venture. I wont be reviving it in 10 years, if I have no career. !! Talking of which, im going to log off, to give our theatre critics Ken and Derek a chance to prepare their 'informed' critique of the play. Should be an articulate, informed, soulful and riviting read! Bit like the 'Chas and Dave' of the arts world. Gertcha! Later....

...could of stopped at "dont write". Still waiting for that theatre critique my slimfast friend!

....ok Pete, had'nt been on for a day, so was responding chronologically to peoples opinions. My mistake! The fact is I lost LOADS of money on the play. FINE. I did'nt do it as a financial enterprise....just something I wanted to do from my 'soul' and for the 100,000 people that saw it, I did'nt get any bad feedback! I also let in loads of people free. I was approached to do shirts, badges , all sorts of sh__t, BUT, I had and have no interest in that. A major soul label screwed me over on the soundtrack. When I had no money to go in to rehearsal, I did'nt see Wigan council, Russ or Anyone coming to help. That was my choice. But, im not going to let a few miserable, uninformed and bitter peolple slag of ALL that work, when they did'nt even see it! Paul-s

Perhaps you could tell us which bits you did'nt like. Elaborate on a few scenes etc?

Lack of education is no excuse, if your going to have an opinion Ken, at least articulate it. Why is a play bad...is the Brechtian concept of agitprop you disagree with or do YOU wish I had made it more Stanislavkian in its method? I mean , what is your great critical claim based on. Perhaps, you would like to compare it to some of the may other productions you have seen?

Thanks Shane....there just a bit jealous and sad....I forgive them. Thing is, its all the ones who didnt actually see it! Opinions based on their own limited or non-existant experience of theatre.

It was called 'Once Upon A Time In Wigan'. I got some of your B--tl-g dvd's to use in some of the documentary footage. Did you actually see the play? Or is this just a dogmatic, couch Bigot having a rant?

Well if you actually saw it mate...fair enough! thats an opinion. Guess if were talking arts, you disagree with ALL the books, pictures, photos and films aswell. And documentaries. Thats your way of perceiving the world. Dont get me wrong, black and white works for some people! obviously floats your boat! There were record companies etc that tried to commandere the play and change it and I resisted that , as all I wanted to do was pay tribute to a period that changed my life and the face of music in the U.K. FULL STOP. I could have the play out now and have been asked to. It could make a lot of money...BUT, I dont want that. I told the truth in the play, warts and all. If you read some of Mr W books, theres not even a mention of drugs etc...its been cleaned up as a commercial and sanitized enterprise. Cheesy...well, thanks for your very informed opinion of theatre.....the words cheese and theatre dont actually go together. You obviously frequent with Ken (is that Russell?) the great West End plays...'Cats'...'Les Miserable' etc...and, whilst appreciating you penchant for these plays, I dont feel it fair to compare 'Once Upon A Time In Wigan' to these . A neanderthol appreciation of the arts , is no reason to feel you can articulate regarding something you probably have'nt even seen! I look forward to your learned contributions to this great scene of ours in the future.

Jealousy is such a terrible symptom of life for some my overweight friend!