Dean

As a slight balancing factor, although not enough to maintain the days of cover-ups at previous levels, we do tend now as a scene to have a broader perspective of what we as individuals mean by the term 'Northern' and 'rare' soul. I think our tastes have broadened bringing in wider searches. I agree its obviously much much easier to simply google for info on artists, titles, labels, writers, producers but think that's part of the movement forward. I've bought a couple in the last year by taking a chance on ebay on records that I can't find anything about. I find that fascinating that in an age of fingertip global information there are still wonderful bits of 7" vinyl under the radar. I still get a buzz waiting for an unknown to come through, mostly it's a let down, but the anticipation is good, and just sometimes it can be a winner. There are still bargains on ebay, rather than ebay auctions bringing prices up to book level I think ebay is bringing prices down. Good news if you're buying and are lucky, not if you're selling and unlucky on some items. I do miss record shops, called into Rob's on Hurts yard Nottingham yesterday to see his revamped space (there's another thread on that), and had a little find at this one in Nottingham a couple of week ago, but I don't have the time to get out and hunt them down. As much as we knock ebay I know when I'm in record bars at nights/nighters I'm nervous to buy as i'll often see the desired item cheaper on ebay.

When people are rattlin' on about withdrawing and moaning about SS, remember posts like this, fascinating, awesome, brilliant. Thanks for post

More than a little self indulgent but thought I'd share a happy hour+ playlist from home tonight. Playing some Motwon (and related) from the back of the box. Not the rarest but ooooooh my soul: Gladys Knight & The Pips - Stepping Closer to Your Heart Stu Gardner - Mend this Generation Four Tops - Just As Long as You Need Me Marvin gaye - Lonely Lover Major Lance - I Never Thought I'd be Losing You Danny Hernandez and the Ones - As Long As I've Got You Stu Gardner - Expressin' My Love The Commodores - Don't You Be Worried Liz Lands - Midnight Johnny Tommy Good - Baby I Miss You Martin-Luther King - I Have A dream (bit of a sunsetter that one) The Four Tops - Do What You Gotta Do The Ones - Don't Let Me Lose This Dream La Brenda ben & The Beljeans - Camel Walk Kiki Dee - The Day Will Come Between Sunday and Monday The Four Tops - Can't seem To Get You Out Of My Mind Little Stevie Wonder - Contract On Love Edwin Starr - He Who Picks A Rose Marvin Gaye - You Arthur Adams - Can't wait To see You You may ask why I'm posting this, don't know and don't care other than I really enjoyed that hour+, and it made me reflect upon some other Motown spots heard. Was talking to KevH and Steve L about a Motown dayer at Nottingham Palias, not sure but probably around '77, it was dreadful each trusted Motown tune must have been aired about 20 times that day.

Picture taken from Web as not at my computer at the moment. Posted this when posting re MGM label. Just about in my top 10 home plays. The Panic Is On, wonderful tune.

:yes: oh yes you are but you know you're gonna bump into 'em, Johnny Warner not a villain Dean

Well written and reasoned post by Dave Kil above that gives a balanced perspective. Only thing I would add is that in my experience the endemic football violence of the 70s was put away for the duration of all-nighters as we travelled across the country. I could be suffering from rose coloured memory but I'm sure I discussed with friends at the times that carrying a nighter bag and dressed in a NS uniform was almost like a flag of truce regarding the usual terreced violent rivalry. Travelled by public transport from Mansfield Notts to Peterborough, St Ives, Cleehtorpes, Wigan, Sheffield, sometimes alone sometimes in small groups, with no real problem at a time when other rivalries would lead to trouble. The media often tagged onto an embelished darker side of the scene IMO. I think the media coverage was the catalyst for a period at the Casino where we expected trouble between the station and station rd. Enjoyed reading your account Dave.

Also . . . . was it ever "covered-up", I remember the record but don't remember it as Dianne Davidson - just looked on ebay to find she's a Country rock artist. Stevesmith - did the UK white label you had include Little Milton and Denise Lasalle, strange item this . . https://cgi.ebay.com/Dianne-Davidson-Sympathy-Killer-Psych-Funk-45-LISTEN-/200478934071?pt=UK_Records&hash=item2ead79c437

This is posted in Sales, need to post in Wants. Not criticising, helping . . . Dean

Next victim . . . . , just sold (last night on here) Joe Phillips - I Just can't Help Thinking About You being convinced I don't play it these days . . . . . been singing it all day today and thinking "What is that I'm singing, f''in good tune" (although not particularly my version) and then realised what it was . . . . . and I'd sold it! Aint that typical, never sung it so much before I sold it. Don't worry buyer, I'll follow through.

I'll leave these for 3 days then put them on ebay. I think they're half book price or less (Al Hudson not in my book though) prefer paypal but please enquire. First reply wins. Add £1 postage to uk/Europe first class, £3 rest of world. Margie Joseph - Matter of Life or Death, OKEH EX, £15 The Opals - You're Gonna Be Sorry, OKEH VG++ £40 Jerry Weaver - You Need To Be Here, MGM Ex+ £15 T.U.M.E. - Love Shortage, MGM Ex+ £25 The Montains feat Vic Fontaine - Baby What's Your Name, ROTATE (great gritty dancer, only selling as a spare) VG+ £40 Joe Phillips - I Just Can't Help Thinking About You, OMEN. Ex £35 Jerry Fuller - The Killer, Challenge, VG++ £35 (rare latin northern) Troy Keyes & Norma Jenkins - A Good Love Gone Bad, abc. Ex £15 Freddy Butler - There Was A Time, KAPP, Ex+ £10 Maxine Brown - If I Knew Then, ABC Paramount, Ex+ £30 Busta Jones - (You) Keep Making Me Hot, Spring VG+ £15 Crossroads - Coming Home To You Baby ATCO Ex (comp sleeve is ripped at edges) £20 Al Hudson & Soul Partners - My Number One Need, ATCO Ex (flip is blue label) £10

At risk here of merging one often discussed topic into another often discussed topic. And there will be those who presume that suggestions like this invoke a "soul police", but I think playlists should inform the discerning. I just don't think we see enough of them across a variation of nights. Although I do think fliers and posts on here should be reliably informative. If a night proclaims it's oldies then i know I need to be in a mood to go, if it's underplayed I expect to be challenged and come away with some new experiences. I accept that's not always perfectly possible on the basis of one person's/venue's underplayed is anothers regular play, one person's/venue's familiar oldie is anothers forgotten oldie and so on. If you're not proud of your playlist then what are doing it for?

I for one am very impressed

Hello Kev, I know we could discuss in person but thought I'd contribute as I was only thinking about this today. I'm trying to build up my paypal by selling several smaller items, as you know I've tried this before and always fail as I end up buying more than I sell at any given time. But that said, I'm trying again. I was then thinking that I would be likely to see this as monopoly money and if successful in building up a larger credit account would be in danger of paying over the odds for some things. Without going back to cross-refernce I'm sure there's a buy it now Ray Pollard - This TIme on ebay for $3,500 (could be $3000 but the same point), over priced in my paypal, would I be tempted . . . . . . yes. Another reason why I need a breathalizer filter fitting to my pc. Whilst ever I don't have anything in my paypal account I'm always bargain hunting, I think an account in credit will turn me into a different, less considered, buyer. Just thoughts. Edited thought having re-read your question: Another take on this is that in my opinion prices in record boxes at nights and nighters tend to be, on average, higher than finishing ebay or sales on here prices. Imagine if some dealer offered an on-line wireless log in at a night/nighter to pay by virtual money .

It's going to be some task to get all those records back in the same order after the refurbishment! I hope he doesn't get them all out of order, that filing system is the envy of the Bodleian library, it didn't just invent itself you know. Good luck Rob. I know I'd love to have a sift through some of those hidden corners. I think KevH's point is actually true, there is a room at the back that Rob hasn't been able to get in for a long time.

There's one with Yvonne Vernee on the flip, is that a more recent boot than the 90s repress?

Sound advice

funny double standards I have over boots, you can drive a bus through my logic but somehow a 70s boot of this tune that's so difficult to own doesn't seem so bad ass . . . . . . as long as you promise never never to play it out to a floor. 70 boot going through ebay now with 30 mins left https://cgi.ebay.com/TOMANGOES-REALLY-LOVE-YOU-northern-soul-mod-/320663290305?pt=UK_Records&hash=item4aa90581c1 currently £14

4 more from me . . . . just not as big as the one above (or perhaps over by now) Grover Mitchell - Loving You Danny White - Cracked Up Over You Len Barry (again) - 1-2-3 Ray scott - The Real Thing

Picture flatters a little. Pic looks Ex I'd say more VG+(maybe ++) in the hand. Label clean with slight rim wear on raised edge. Vinyl has a few marks across but is 90% clean, plays EX. Rarer on issue I believe, and there's an even scarcer pic sleeve. I saw your pm and you can have this for your offer +£5 inclusive of 1st class postage. Not trying to hard-bargain but not desperate to off load this one. Do need to move some though. No pressure if you want to think on it or wait and see if you get a better deal. Dean

I've got a Okeh demo, am at work and wouldn't like to state definitive condition but remember it being clean. If you still want it at about 5pm I'll post a pic and suggest a price or listen to your offer.

Mmmmm, there's a puzzle, especially as Kev says his is left side. I'm afraid I can't offer any insight, I'll have a close look and see if there's any other detail contained on disc.

Grover Mitchell - Take Your Time And Love Me (great mid-tempo version of the beatier Josie version) Grover Mitchell - I Gotta Keep Movin and finally for now. . . . not everyone's cup of tea but such fond memories of this oldie, still like to spin it at home occasionally Len Barry - You Baby

A few more while I'm on . . . Leon Haywood - You Don't Have to See Me Cry (think Kev H played this at The Attic before I picked it up) Bunny Sigler - For Cryin' Out Loud (nice on issue, thanks to Pete Smith) The Patrick Bradley - Just One More Chance (still favourite inst dancer)

Another Tony Ashley - I'll Never Be Satisfied . . . . well worth looking up