Posted April 24, 201015 yr This could be explained elsewhere but If it is, I haven't seen it. I've often wondered why one of the DEMOs has the Labels Reversed so I thought I would check things. Just a Theory. I'm not sure if they changed their mind regarding the "PLUG SIDE" causing confusion with the Matrix or just Human Error & we may never know. Clearly something Unusual Happened. I think that when the Bestway Press was made, they probably wouldn't have played it & simply followed the Information Given. Bestway Press - Labels on Wrong Sides. I have been Looking at this and believe that the reason the Labels are on the wrong side is because someone mixed the Matrix Numbers up between the Printers & Pressing Plant. Clearly printed on the Labels (8008) & (8009) Corresponds with the Information on the Deadwax (8008) & (8009). However when played the wrong song is in the grooves. Monarch Press - Labels on the correct sides for each title, but to achieve this the Matrix (8009) on the Label & (8008) in the Deadwax. Of course the other side has Matrix (8008) on the Label & (8009) in the Deadwax. Another pointer to this theory is the Monarch Matrix Delta # 65704 For "TOO DARN SOULFUL" # 65704-X For "YOU DON'T LOVE ME ANYMORE" Which is the "PLUG SIDE" Yet the "-X" Denotes the "B Side" on a Monarch Press.
April 24, 201015 yr Hi Roger On my issue the TDS is Delta 65704 and tother side 65704X yet the number is 8008 on TDS in run out grooves and 8009 on the other side
April 24, 201015 yr Author Hi Roger On my issue the TDS is Delta 65704 and tother side 65704X yet the number is 8008 on TDS in run out grooves and 8009 on the other side Hi Ted Many Thanks for the Information. The Delta # makes me wonder if "TOO DARN SOULFUL" was the Indended "A SIDE" at some point. Then they changed to "YOU DON'T LOVE ME ANYMORE" as the "PLUG SIDE"
April 24, 201015 yr Hi Ted Many Thanks for the Information. The Delta # makes me wonder if "TOO DARN SOULFUL" was the Indended "A SIDE" at some point. it woud have been difficult to decide cause You dont love is really good as well
April 24, 201015 yr Author it woud have been difficult to decide cause You dont love is really good as well Yes, it would have been difficult. Not many Stock Copies about, considering. I've only ever seen the one that my friend Mick Cook once owned way back in the early 70s, plus the Scan on PopSike.
April 24, 201015 yr Yes, it would have been difficult. Not many Stock Copies about, considering. I've only ever seen the one that my friend Mick Cook once owned way back in the early 70s, plus the Scan on PopSike. mine came from Ian Clark years ago from the Tony Ellis collection i believe £35
April 25, 201015 yr Yes, it would have been difficult. Not many Stock Copies about, considering. I've only ever seen the one that my friend Mick Cook once owned way back in the early 70s, plus the Scan on PopSike. Cooky's copy went to Poke, then to me, then to John Anderson. If anyone got a stocker from Soul Bowl around 1977/78 ish then it's most likely to be the same one.
April 25, 201015 yr Author Cooky's copy went to Poke, then to me, then to John Anderson. If anyone got a stocker from Soul Bowl around 1977/78 ish then it's most likely to be the same one. Many Thanks for the Information Dave, It shows just how Rare this record is as a Stock Copy.
April 26, 201015 yr Probably been mentioned before,Teds copy was mine,came from Kojack so it most likely came from Blue Max Steve I swapped it with Tony for a Denis Dell demo(which i then swapped with John Manship at Cleethorpes) ) Steve so its you that put the que burn on it then hope you are well Steve
April 27, 201015 yr so its you that put the que burn on it then hope you are well Steve Hi yah Ted, I've got a nice mint issue ATB, Pete
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This could be explained elsewhere but If it is, I haven't seen it.
I've often wondered why one of the DEMOs has the Labels Reversed so I thought I would check things.
Just a Theory.
I'm not sure if they changed their mind regarding the "PLUG SIDE"
causing confusion with the Matrix or just Human Error & we may never know.
Clearly something Unusual Happened.
I think that when the Bestway Press was made, they probably wouldn't have played it & simply followed the Information Given.
Bestway Press - Labels on Wrong Sides.
I have been Looking at this and believe that the reason the Labels are on the wrong side
is because someone mixed the Matrix Numbers up between the Printers & Pressing Plant.
Clearly printed on the Labels (8008) & (8009) Corresponds with the Information on the Deadwax (8008) & (8009).
However when played the wrong song is in the grooves.
Monarch Press - Labels on the correct sides for each title, but to achieve this the Matrix (8009) on the Label & (8008) in the Deadwax.
Of course the other side has Matrix (8008) on the Label & (8009) in the Deadwax.
Another pointer to this theory is the Monarch Matrix Delta
# 65704 For "TOO DARN SOULFUL"
# 65704-X For "YOU DON'T LOVE ME ANYMORE" Which is the "PLUG SIDE"
Yet the "-X" Denotes the "B Side" on a Monarch Press.