Can anyone shed any light on this?

JM's guide says the orig has a deep ridge 1/4" from centre and a lip where the label meets the vinyl.

It also says it has virtue A-72869-B scratched in.

My copy doesnt have the ridge/lip but it does have this matrix no. I always thought it was a pressing so my question is does the pressing have the same matrix scratched in??

Cheers

Can anyone shed any light on this?

JM's guide says the orig has a deep ridge 1/4" from centre and a lip where the label meets the vinyl.

It also says it has virtue A-72869-B scratched in.

My copy doesnt have the ridge/lip but it does have this matrix no. I always thought it was a pressing so my question is does the pressing have the same matrix scratched in??

Cheers

Will get back to you, Just leaving to go to work on Nights.

Almost certain that I bought this from Soul Bowl from the front of the list.

Can't remember it being desribed as a Re-Issue.

--Has Virtue Across from the Matrix

--Here's the Matrix on my copy

Hi Roger ........

I have , following your posting and scanned information , I have dug my copy out of " BW " .......

My copy is exactly the same as yours in respect of the ROG .....

What is the current value ?

Malc Burton

Thanks Roger, my copy is exactly the same as yours I bought it from selectadisc in Nottingham in the mid 70s. Any other opinions as to original or not?

Thanks Roger, my copy is exactly the same as yours I bought it from selectadisc in Nottingham in the mid 70s. Any other opinions as to original or not?

I have been looking for the Lip at the edge and the 1/4" deep ridge.

I think my copy has, but this record is a difficult one to judge for me,

as I haven't the other copy to compare. If I was 100% certain of buying from Soul Bowl

I would be happier to State OK. They did have a few re-issues notably the Harthon stuff.

If it's the Original the 3rd Edition states £100, not sure on current Value.

I recall seeing a copy with deeper-red than those scanned, label, complete with the ridge (like a Rite press) and sporting a much larger font for the artist/title/credits. It was £300 in a knowledgable collector's sales box, and that was well over a decade ago...but I've never forgotten it...probaboly because I didn't buy it!

The ones already scanned I've always considered to be 2nd presses.

I recall seeing a copy with deeper-red than those scanned, label, complete with the ridge (like a Rite press) and sporting a much larger font for the artist/title/credits. It was £300 in a knowledgable collector's sales box, and that was well over a decade ago...but I've never forgotten it...probaboly because I didn't buy it!

The ones already scanned I've always considered to be 2nd presses.

Thanks for that, As I stated earlier I'm not 100% certain with this one,

as to where I bought it.

I've just tried to sort the soundfile of the instrumental of it I have on a virtue acetate but it doesn't seem to be working? Problems with uploads at the moment?

Edited January 19, 200817 yr by James Trouble

got mine in the early 90's off a major dealer as an original but always suspected it wasn't a real one. Here's a bit of info from Manships site which just about confirmed it.

The ORIGINAL first press is made from heavy NON-FLEXIABLE vinyl. Deadwax scratched matrix has an indentation appearance reads A-72869-B with VIRTUE directly opposite. 2nd press matrix is scratched & reads A 7Z869 - B the 7 resembles a reversed F

got mine in the early 90's off a major dealer as an original but always suspected it wasn't a real one. Here's a bit of info from Manships site which just about confirmed it.

The ORIGINAL first press is made from heavy NON-FLEXIABLE vinyl. Deadwax scratched matrix has an indentation appearance reads A-72869-B with VIRTUE directly opposite. 2nd press matrix is scratched & reads A 7Z869 - B the 7 resembles a reversed F

Yes, as I stated the copy I have I wasn't sure about.

Looks like a Second Press then.