...therefore I am not stating my beliefs as fact.

But....

....I've been listening to a lot of stuff that is either currently in demand, or carrying high prices - stuff that I would deem to be doo-wop to stuff that I would deem to be cross over (as the scene has become more adult in it's appreciation of soul music, it has obviously opened a deal of doors that did not get the attention bitd).

And I must say that I feel a fair amount of the current movers are, to me, fairly weak productions.

Not all may I add, but some of the new (to me anyhow) stuff I have seen fetching serious dough are at best second rate and at worst poor.

I know dancefloors need new material but I weigh up certain new sounds, and their subsequent price tag, up against more well known plays and there is no contest - again, for me anyhow.

Your views on this subject would be appreciated.

Can't give a view before you give us some names of the so called weak productions .. A short list maybe...

I guess it depends on your definition of "weak" productions. It suggests to me basic or maybe poor or amateurish but then you'd have to be comparing them with what? Im not sure but again I'd guess an overall standard of past 45s but then we all have our preferred style.

Like Stevie said something a bit more concrete.

I do share your general feeling but I just figured I was getting old and out of touch. Apologies to anybody trying to sell these 45s but in response to Stevie's request things that spring to my mind that I've listened to recently on here are the Debonettes [Merry] which just sounds messy, Three Heads[Chart],messy and too white and David Carboni, MOR and white.

It's not that I'd describe them as weak but just not what they are purported to be. Basically they're not Northern cos they don't have the right ingredients in the right place IMO.

To labour the "weak" point I guess one of my faves right now is that Lenard Adair that Andy K is selling. I suppose you could call that basic or amateurish in that it's just a simple groove [similar to Rascal's "Groovin'" IMO] but everything just gels.

Maybe in the search for something different the boundaries begin to shift and stuff comes through that maybe shouldn't.

ROD

I guess it depends on your definition of "weak" productions. It suggests to me basic or maybe poor or amateurish but then you'd have to be comparing them with what? Im not sure but again I'd guess an overall standard of past 45s but then we all have our preferred style.

Like Stevie said something a bit more concrete.

I do share your general feeling but I just figured I was getting old and out of touch. Apologies to anybody trying to sell these 45s but in response to Stevie's request things that spring to my mind that I've listened to recently on here are the Debonettes [Merry] which just sounds messy, Three Heads[Chart],messy and too white and David Carboni, MOR and white.

It's not that I'd describe them as weak but just not what they are purported to be. Basically they're not Northern cos they don't have the right ingredients in the right place IMO.

To labour the "weak" point I guess one of my faves right now is that Lenard Adair that Andy K is selling. I suppose you could call that basic or amateurish in that it's just a simple groove [similar to Rascal's "Groovin'" IMO] but everything just gels.

Maybe in the search for something different the boundaries begin to shift and stuff comes through that maybe shouldn't.

ROD

I guess I should have taken more time with my query but I do sometimes get some stick about the length of my posts.

Sometimes 'weak' works, yes, what I suppose I was trying to get across is that some of the 'newly played' stuff I hear, that goes for money, seems lazy in approach, almost one-take stuff (which again, on occassion works).

There is always material overlooked that will eventually come to the fore but does the need for dj's to break a new track maybe lead to pleasant and ultimately 'acceptable' - but maybe sub standard (whatever that is?) - dancefloor product getting air and subsequent message board time?

I know that reads like a crock - do your best.