can anyone help me on this, ive found a record ive had for 25 years never played ,frankie and johnny ill hold you/ (im)never gonna leave you, before i think of selling i wondered if it had a history of being bootlegged although the more i play it the more im liking it. Its a white label demo on hickory records No45-1391 thanks for your time. spud.

can anyone help me on this, ive found a record ive had for 25 years never played ,frankie and johnny ill hold you/ (im)never gonna leave you, before i think of selling i wondered if it had a history of being bootlegged although the more i play it the more im liking it. Its a white label demo on hickory records No45-1391 thanks for your time. spud.

Hi Spud,

I have an original Hickory White Demo and paid £225 for it. As far as I'm aware, it hasn't been booted on Hickory. I haven't got my records to hand coz I'm away, but if you could put the Matrix details on here, I'm sure someone will be able to check it for you.

Great record by the way................... Keep it.

KTF.................... Bridgey

Hi Spud,

I have an original Hickory White Demo and paid £225 for it. As far as I'm aware, it hasn't been booted on Hickory. I haven't got my records to hand coz I'm away, but if you could put the Matrix details on here, I'm sure someone will be able to check it for you.

Great record by the way................... Keep it.

KTF.................... Bridgey

cheers Bridgey the number in the dead wax is 45-f-927-r also the words spiral p and your right it is a great record and i only payed 10p for it

It was definitely booted on Hickory white demo, the run off is much larger than on the original. You paid how much for a demo, I sold an issue on friday for £75 and it's twice as hard as the demo!

It was definitely booted on Hickory white demo, the run off is much larger than on the original. You paid how much for a demo, I sold an issue on friday for £75 and it's twice as hard as the demo!

also theres a nashville matrix stamp in the run out of the original is that correct pete, as pete says was deffo booted on hickory w/d

more info here https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.p...mp;#entry810037

also theres a nashville matrix stamp in the run out of the original is that correct pete, as pete says was deffo booted on hickory w/d

more info here https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.p...mp;#entry810037

Thanks for your help lads,

spud

It was definitely booted on Hickory white demo, the run off is much larger than on the original. You paid how much for a demo, I sold an issue on friday for £75 and it's twice as hard as the demo!

Hi Pete,

£75 is mega cheap for an issue. £200+ is about the right price for a W/D... Mint one. But then again mate, I don't sell records. I only buy them!!

Paul at Soulgalore as a M- one on his site now for £200+. I do buy allot of records from Paul and I would say he is always spot on with his grading. Too be honest, he grade's them worse than they really are, I would say Paul's Ex would be another dealers M-. But that's only my opinion. I have always found his price's to be bang on the money as well.... If your right about £75 for an issue and you say it's twice as hard to find than a W/D.......... What's the W/D worth.... £45... ??

Don't take this the wrong way Pete, I'm sure you know your records allot better than me, I'm just explaining (or maybe trying to justify) the price I paid. Anyway mate, if I paid well over the odds or got it for the right money. I'm happy with it.....

Take Care Pal............ KTF............ Bridgey..

Hi Pete,

£75 is mega cheap for an issue. £200+ is about the right price for a W/D... Mint one. But then again mate, I don't sell records. I only buy them!!

Paul at Soulgalore as a M- one on his site now for £200+. I do buy allot of records from Paul and I would say he is always spot on with his grading. Too be honest, he grade's them worse than they really are, I would say Paul's Ex would be another dealers M-. But that's only my opinion. I have always found his price's to be bang on the money as well.... If your right about £75 for an issue and you say it's twice as hard to find than a W/D.......... What's the W/D worth.... £45... ??

Don't take this the wrong way Pete, I'm sure you know your records allot better than me, I'm just explaining (or maybe trying to justify) the price I paid. Anyway mate, if I paid well over the odds or got it for the right money. I'm happy with it.....

Take Care Pal............ KTF............ Bridgey..

Just saying - I'd sell you the WD same price as the issue, but having said that, after what happened Friday, I'd now ask £100 for the issue...but maybe still £75 for the demo. I would seriously want at least 3 copies for £250. Then again, I just paid £100 too much for the UK demo so I can't talk.

Just saying - I'd sell you the WD same price as the issue, but having said that, after what happened Friday, I'd now ask £100 for the issue...but maybe still £75 for the demo. I would seriously want at least 3 copies for £250. Then again, I just paid £100 too much for the UK demo so I can't talk.

NO YOU DIDNT MATE YOU PAID THE PRICE I PAID AND CAN BE VERIFIED,

HOW MANY UK DEMO'S HAVE YOU HAD,IF YOU WANT WILL BUY BACK AT PRICE THAT WAS GIVEN AT DISCOUNT

WITH OTHERS...XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX SWOZ

NO YOU DIDNT MATE YOU PAID THE PRICE I PAID AND CAN BE VERIFIED,

HOW MANY UK DEMO'S HAVE YOU HAD,IF YOU WANT WILL BUY BACK AT PRICE THAT WAS GIVEN AT DISCOUNT

WITH OTHERS...XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX SWOZ

Swoz we've already had this discussion, just because you paid X amount for something doesn't mean that's the 'true' value, you can't go by auction prices, otherwise Shirley Ellis "Soul Time" CBS demo is apparently worth £183! How many demos have I had, I've had two, and three issues, how many have you had, and what difference does that make?

£200+ is about the right price for a W/D...

Only if you're daft enough to pay that much, Bridgey mate!

It comes up all the time and everywhere. Pete's valuation is grounded in reality. I wouldn't (and didn't) pay more than £75.00 for Hickory demo, or issue.

John M might be able to get £200.00 for a demo. I doubt very much if many regular dealers could, and I'll bet the Soulgalore copy sits on that site for a while...

Hope all's well otherwise - keep on truckin!

£200 as the world gone mad.

Only if you're daft enough to pay that much, Bridgey mate!

It comes up all the time and everywhere. Pete's valuation is grounded in reality. I wouldn't (and didn't) pay more than £75.00 for Hickory demo, or issue.

John M might be able to get £200.00 for a demo. I doubt very much if many regular dealers could, and I'll bet the Soulgalore copy sits on that site for a while...

Hope all's well otherwise - keep on truckin!

well if you think thats bad.I traded a C90 tape with northern on taped at the Casino back in the 80s for a British copy on Decca with no centre he bought it for 10p i sold it on to four guys at Cleethorps back in the 90s for £45 and they still moaned about the price

yes it hurts

well if you think thats bad.I traded a C90 tape with northern on taped at the Casino back in the 80s for a British copy on Decca with no centre he bought it for 10p i sold it on to four guys at Cleethorps back in the 90s for £45 and they still moaned about the price

yes it hurts

Why ?

Why ?

Devorce off me head at the time i sold alot of great stuff very cheap half of my collection

collecting again since 2000 and its been hard but ive enjoyed collecting new sounds and very happy

Only if you're daft enough to pay that much, Bridgey mate!

It comes up all the time and everywhere. Pete's valuation is grounded in reality. I wouldn't (and didn't) pay more than £75.00 for Hickory demo, or issue.

John M might be able to get £200.00 for a demo. I doubt very much if many regular dealers could, and I'll bet the Soulgalore copy sits on that site for a while...

Hope all's well otherwise - keep on truckin!

Hi Tony,

Hope your keeping well. I've just parked up for the night and all is well at our end of the country.

Catch up some time...

KTF.................... Bridgey

Devorce off me head at the time i sold alot of great stuff very cheap half of my collection

collecting again since 2000 and its been hard but ive enjoyed collecting new sounds and very happy

£40 in the 9ts for two bob,you done well i say and a issue with the centre popped

Hi Pete,

£75 is mega cheap for an issue. £200+ is about the right price for a W/D... Mint one. But then again mate, I don't sell records. I only buy them!!

Paul at Soulgalore as a M- one on his site now for £200+. I do buy allot of records from Paul and I would say he is always spot on with his grading. Too be honest, he grade's them worse than they really are, I would say Paul's Ex would be another dealers M-. But that's only my opinion. I have always found his price's to be bang on the money as well.... If your right about £75 for an issue and you say it's twice as hard to find than a W/D.......... What's the W/D worth.... £45... ??

Don't take this the wrong way Pete, I'm sure you know your records allot better than me, I'm just explaining (or maybe trying to justify) the price I paid. Anyway mate, if I paid well over the odds or got it for the right money. I'm happy with it.....

Take Care Pal............ KTF............ Bridgey..

on which planet ????? fools, money, easily parted springs to mind

on which planet ????? fools, money, easily parted springs to mind

OK SPUD THIS IS BOOT LEG WHITE DEMO .CHEERS SHAUN

Edited March 5, 200916 yr by shaunfitz

cheers Bridgey the number in the dead wax is 45-f-927-r also the words spiral p and your right it is a great record and i only payed 10p for it

Hi Spud,

I'm still away on the road until either late Friday night or Saturday morning. Once I get home I'll check out the matrix numbers in the dead wax for you. Hopefully mate, your's isn't a booted one. 10p WOW......... Lovely bargin.

I asked you to put the Dead wax details on here hopeing that someone would come on and help you, however, they all seem to be keen on having a go at me for paying £225 for mine, which I stated that I was very happy with.

(In a bit of interest, I paid 50p for an Original: Melvin Davies - Find A Quiet Place, on Wheel City).... (Value: £750+ ?????)

Some you win, some you lose!!

Take Care. I'll get back to you on the Dead Wax details for the Frankie & Johnny when I get home.

KTF.................... Bridgey

the only deadwax detail you need is the "nashville matrix" stamp, if it aint got one then its a boot

the only deadwax detail you need is the "nashville matrix" stamp, if it aint got one then its a boot

As per post 5, end of chat really init

Only if you're daft enough to pay that much, Bridgey mate!

It comes up all the time and everywhere. Pete's valuation is grounded in reality. I wouldn't (and didn't) pay more than £75.00 for Hickory demo, or issue.

John M might be able to get £200.00 for a demo. I doubt very much if many regular dealers could, and I'll bet the Soulgalore copy sits on that site for a while...

Hope all's well otherwise - keep on truckin!

Really rare on Japanese Decca, lyrics slightly changed to describe Origami, it,s called "I,ll Fold You."

On 05/03/2009 at 15:39, Trev Thomas said:

the only deadwax detail you need is the "nashville matrix" stamp, if it aint got one then its a boot

Trev this one ?

 

9 hours ago, Blackpoolsoul said:

Trev this one ?

never seen this before