Kris Holmes

There is some damn incredible stuff amongst it all on those Soul Kitchen/Bounty etc labels.

cool 45, out of Cleveland, nice soulful gospel.

I think there's another label variation too. Don't think it's James Brown related. Cool 45.

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I definitely own a few 45s which look a bit rough but for some reason the marks seem to be all surface & once the stylus gets down in the groove, seemingly past the wear, the sound is still as good as a Mint 45. I don't see how this is a mystery? It's a reasonable occurence. Visually looks "Good", Aurally sounds "Mint", it happens occaisionally.

The bit where they have the argument in Samuel L Jackson's apartment near the start is one of my favorite funny scenes in any movie ever.

I have a bunch of LP covers & beat 45s on the wall of my classroom, the kids are always asking about them. The blurry writing of "Shotgun" on the Jr Walker LP cover gets lots of stares.

Nope. There is no other record selling website that gets the traffic & sheer volume of stock to choose from. They have the market & are so ingrained into the face of record dealing that it will not change. The alternatives, discogs which is clumsy & pretty slow in general for soul. Gemm which is woefully outdated & you essentially find records which are "out of stock" (then turn up on ebay the next week). Paying top price to online or in person dealers. Spending a lot of time/legwork/money chasing records in the real world. Me, for the most part I'd rather sit on my couch, with the laptop & a cup of coffee & nab deals/steals off ebay. I'm not saying ebay is perfect, they are downright crappy in some aspects of their business but they pretty much have the market cornered.

only thing on Jay Boy I have is that faster version of Harlem Shuffle, i had others, but slowly replaced them with US presses.

this ^^^^^

to add confusion the credits on the Dot press are a combo of all the above too if i remember tonight after work i'll take a look at what copy I have filed because you've got me curious now.

i don't exactly know the chronology though sorry.

there is a 3rd variation not pictured as well.

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There are also US boots of titles which have no color on the black & white labels. They are vinyl instead of styrene. For example.

to add more variation, there is also a much paler yellow label version around too for both "Sock It To Me" & "Different Strokes" & probably "The Devastator".

you might want to read the thread again because I think you're missing something. yes there are genuine Twilight while labels, they aren't as common as the yellow, there isn't much difference in price. "Try Me" on Twilight is a reissue of the "Try Me" on Zachron. (although there is no confirmation of whether they are different takes).

The original Wand label was dark blue for the first releases on the label, some of these were then later reissued on the new black & white label after the change. Is this what you mean?

only half of it though..... but to be serious, although the white labels are less common they actually seem to price out about the same as stock, no sizeable difference. In the real world it's a $5-$10 45, in the online world it seems to have recently risen & now be $20-$30.

I think what happened was they issued "Straight Love No Chaser"/"Surrounded" on Zachron 600 first which hit locally (then licensed it to Tag where it died). I think the intended follow up to this on Zachron was "Try Me"/"Surrounded" which was less successful. I am speculating that this was supposed to be Zachron 601 but it came out again as 600. The Scott Bros 45 is Zachron 602. Both Zachron variations originally appear on the saxophonist label by the way. With the saxophonist version of "Straight Love" being much tougher in my experience than the 2nd (but contemporary) press block letter version. "Half A Love" was the fourth song recorded at this session & perhaps was intended to be paired with "Try Me" on the follow up but for whatever reason was ditched in favor of recycling "Surrounded". "Come On Sock It To Me" was the only track recorded at the time & needing a flip for it, Syl just reached back & recycled "Try Me".

Lots of info in this thread, I'm a Syl Johnson osessive Twilight isn't a misspelling, they legitimately changed the label name to Twinight after the first few releases after learning of another Twilight label. As mentioned 108 is definitely a different song & Syl's "Feel An Urge" is awesome on the flip of that. I have the Zachron with the block letters (sans Try Me) & didn't feel the need to get the "saxophonist" label one because I just assumed it would be the same take, that it might be different is interesting news to me. It is definitely a tougher pull than Twilight 100, which as someone noted seems to be rising in preice despite being a common 45, demand I guess. It's always been the easiest of the early Syl 45s to find. The white labels of the early yellow label Twilights aren't that common either, but do turn up. The block letter Zachron is common too, I had a box of unplayed stock & there are definitely unplayed stock on ebay from time to time, Surrounded & Straight Love are both strong tracks. Is there a white label variation of either Zachron though?

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Pretty much just worried about any Jr Walker UK shows from 68/69. Definitely no later than that as he'd left the UK by then. Trying to piece together this guitarist's activities in the UK at that time & the timing/evidence of the Jr Walker tour is tough to ascertain as it is right around a few other things, like a semi-aborted Jeff Beck tour as a bassist. It doesn't help that he was known by at least 3 psuedonyms at the time Ideally would love a picture of the band onstage or something like that, highly unlikely though I know...