Marc Forrest

Monopolist, eh ?

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True...could well do a with a 12inch extended mix version of said tune

Yes it is. All originals should also carry sort of a stamped name in the dead wax next to the release number...it was far too small for me to read though

Fabulous tune indeed, 1.36 min of Soul heaven. You may will be as lucky as I was when I found one for around 100 USD

Just noticed that a lot of "new" (?) bootlegs are coming (again) from Belgium. I nearly bid on the recent Freedie Houston and Sparkles bootlegs up on ebay which must have been newly made as they look so close to an original on first view. Also there are currently bootelgs of Patrinell Staten being offered which I do believe must be newly made...up comes the question where the people who made these have had access to the tunes and labels as to my knowledge the number of people having this record is whith Butch, Arthur Fenn, me and approx. two more people very limited ?? Bootleggers and people who buy these sort of things to play out loud at a venue..."hang them high" is what I say. I sold some serious rare records to finance my lastest release on Hip City Soul Club Records and will (again) be very unlikely to get the money back, which is okay as long as it is fun to do and the artist gets his fair piece of the cake (which he is in this case) but when you have these kinda bootleggers making a nice benefit it really pisses you off. Marc

I checked last night at home with my copy and the originals should have a LW pressed into the dead wax (on my copy placed at about two o`clock).

Forgot to say that all 45s are obviously in ex+ to m- condition You can easily email me at hipcitysoulclub@gmx.net or pm me, Many thanks Marc

I am planning to part with my complete Alpha Record label run (excluding Alpha 006) incl. Johhny Alton, Jimmy Wallace, Ronnie & Joyce, Celestrals etc. and the best to do would be to hand them over complete to a collector who appreciates a complete label run instead of selling them individually. So if you are interested please send me an offer and we take it from there. Many thanks

Hi there Phil, just recently sold my copy (along the rest of the label) and would like to know if I made a "mistake" price-wise...so please let me know how much you got for it (offlist iuf you wish of course), appreciated

makes you wonder if they were pressed with the x on label or if it has been done individually...to make the 45...lets say more individual Got a John & The Weirdest boot with X on label and even a DJ name written all over the label...and no, its not mine (the name that is)

Have a look please https://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3...ist34QQsbrsrtZd

Correction...come to think of it it was Paul Welsby who persuaded me one night after the Hideaway to part with my copy. Marc

It is. Sold my damned copy several years ago to Lee Miller and ever only saw one other copy for sale... Terriffic tune and teh sort of "R&B" that still has got me. Marc

One was recently and privtely auctioned and went for a lot - A LOT- of dosh... Marc

One on a list today at 1200 UKP

So if you top every single offer by only 5 UKP again you are prepared to send out about 200 pm`s alone on this precious item then, aren`t you ?

Hi Chalky, that tape was done by Paul McNamara back in late 1992 after he already had gone back to the UK.

Shifty had it on one of his last lists at 250 UKP. Marc

I have a tape from ´93 where it was still a c/up. The last one went in mint minus condition two weeks ago for about the equivalent of 7/800 UKP thru ebay...very cheap compared with recent prices for this item. And I agree with what others said, if it would have been not that rare over the last five years there would have been much more copies up for sale. On the other aspect(s) of prices going down..I am sure no prophet but I said it on several occasions years before that the time will soon come (now it`s here!) that we will have three categories of records. 1. the sheer amount of 45s under about 100 UKP For these the market it vanishing more and more from day to day. the simple reason for that is that most of us have or had these 45s and simply don`t need or don´t want to buy these classic collection builders from days gone by with the odd exception (tune of the week/month etc..). As the price hike of especially the last seven / nine years hold many willing people back from starting seriously collecting Rare Soul obviously there are now near to none new collectors who could be the now needed market for these 45s. The very same happened with the Blues, Doo Wop and Rockabilly market years and years ago. We need to realize (if not already done) that the Rare Soul scene is a scene where the average age is nowadays around 45 years plus...and who hasn`t got started to collect already is very much unlikely to do so in the next coming years.. Here the Market already has dictated the new pricing. You can buy a Darrel Banks "Our Love" every day on ebay for 10 USD... 2. the classic or big known oldies between say 100 and 500 UKP Here you have a market these days where supply and demand really still dictate the price situation...On one hand 45s like "The Chase Is On" or "Not Too Young To Fall In Love" for example. Easy to sell (even at an inflated price) due to demand because of reactivation. But on the other hand take all the Dena Barnes and Liz Verdi´s of this world and try to sell them at their once highest (book) prices. But don`t get too frustrated please. In general you can already foresee here the same development as above although the market is going "down" much much slower...a "sideward moving market" is how a German economist would call this and most responsible for this are (as already stated) we...the collectors and DJ`s who still (!) buy. 3. the big mega rare or "monster" items from 500 upwards Here you find a market that is having 45s that still can reach new highs...but can also drop easily and fast. Just take the recent Angela Davis topic to see what I mean. And indeed Angela Davis is a good example...bought by one of the big DJ`s of this beloved scene who in the end had one contrahent in the auction (I bet another big DJ). And I`ll bet again and this time with anyone that if that other bidder will have secured a copy of Angela Davis this won´t reach such a high amount again anywhere. And that picture explains this market perfectly: When all the "big " collectors and DJ`s who want and can afford have finally secured that record in question the price is sure to drop. To see what I mean try to sell a Leo Price on Up /Down these days at a grand and tell me how you succeeded... This market I believe is still the strongest or lets say most constant but it depends very much on the 45 in question wether price is going up or down. Once all "gold card" customers have been served there is noone left to eat the soup... Bon appetit! Marc

I know that there are some Soulies out there who like to collect the odd foreign Soul 45...namely David Flynn spring to mind but I am sure there are loads of others. I recently had a Val Martinez "Pay Day" on ebay and not one bid which had me scratching my head...brill gritty R&B tune..in my book. Marc

btw, as I did not ask for how much he sold it, how much was it ? Marc

Well, the demo is not as rare as the issue which is indeed quite rare...

Butchs copy is sold since weekend before last... Marc