Agentsmith

A proper opportunist, is probably the kindest description...the rest would be legit character assassination!, and plenty stood in line waiting to perpetrate it!....

In which case then, his visits to the states, predate that of Anderson's or Soussan's....not Martin Koppel though, i'm sure Tim said he was stateside in 69. It's funny we only read in articles/books about one trip, and that supposedly resulted in ' the big haul/find ' that lead to Levine hoovering up the rest...the suggestion that several trips occured, may have meant just holidays?, i couldn't hazard a guess at what a flight to America would've cost back then, let alone getting on a plane!, especially with what wages were back in the day...even a record then costing a fiver could be viewed as a weeks wages in most cases so, a flight to the Usa.... As you rightly said, quite a cache of tunes had been discovered and played prior to the Torch closure....Graham's interview for Neil's book relates to a whole bunch of tunes, no one was aware of....they got played at the Cats, which in terms of the Torch closure, is a natural progression....the way he states it makes me conclude these were from the Miami visit and this period surely has to be 73?, late 72?........ that would be like holding his cards close to his chest to not reveal what he'd found, for a period of time.....fact is, he wanted to play them out straight away when he got back, which he duelly did...at the Cats. If this ' big haul had been found in 71, they would certainly have been played at the Torch...i'm sure you'd agree with that assumption?......crikey!, if that had happened by the time the Casino came about, they wouldve been oldies!!

Ian, you literally couldnt move in that office for tons of boxes he'd had shipped back, not far off 50 years ago now....

Julian, that story or outcome isnt dissimilar to one Mr. Dewhirst mentioned a while ago, same outcome at Blackpool Mecca...threatened lynching and Ian got him out the backdoor for his own safety.....deffo got people's backs up, back then. Catacombs was an incredibly atmospheric venue, and the dancers were amazing!

Thats some discrepancy: nearly 2 years?, that s never right!, Anderson wouldve found them if theyd been left there that long....i mean, it can be argued who found what amount....theyre both still alive, they should put the record straight on the timeline, especially between Warr coming across the warehouse and subsequently telling Levine....i think both tallies were significantly more than suggested. Around 75/6, Rushton shipped a load of stuff back from the states himself, after going over there...i remember the boxes piled up everywhere in his office in Lichfield st, Walsall

It was 73, otherwise the vast majority of what he unearthed, and Levine subsequently hoovered up the rest, wouldve been played at the Torch before it shut....they werent, The Cats and obviously Mecca, were front and centre for breaking these tunes...ive just referred to Neil's and as you said, thats whats in the article that graham wrote for the book....the fact is, JA was the first person in the states, by merely a few weeks before Levine and that didnt happen until at least 73, he said that himself when he was alive..i would doubt he'd have known graham warr then....you don't see any playlists from the Wheel ( which was open in 71 ) containing anything he turned up, and that pretty much applies to the Torch as well as far as i'm aware.

Played at the Cats to a packed dancefloor

Agreed but, unfortunately its too late to arrange anything with significant promotion to attract enough people's attention so, its very likely it won't be observed in a proper fashion. Pep used to organize an event, as did Neil Rushton but it looks like theyve given up the ghost...they weren't the only regular djs there in its later years, sadly Max is no longer with us, as for Carl Dene, Mike Hollis, Graham Warr, Bill Black, Basil, Alan Day...i'm not even sure whether theyre aware of the significance of the date...this is classed as one of the legendary clubs, particularly in the early 70's as Northern Soul got going, along with the aforementioned Torch, Wheel and VaVas, they were the forerunner to the advent of the big all nighter the scene required....that turned out to be the Casino....but many of the tunes played there in the first two years at least, had been discovered and played at these venues first. Max was no slouch in obtaining the big numbers before most other djs..with Warr's stash from Miami in 73, a lot of previously unknowns were broken at the Temple street venue, probably before Levine did, at Blackpool.

I haven't said there's any function to comemmorate that fact....fact is, there should be, especially as it 50 years and there have been past anniversary/reunions, but i see nothing on the horizon at present....in fact, thats a disappointment in itself as something wouldve been in place a good while ago,....i don't know if the main protagonists ( Cats djs ) have anything in mind....they certainly haven't divulged it. So, as it stands im purely stating the fact its 50 years and ask if people want to comment on that and share any memories, as i said in the intial post, then please do so...and if in the meantime a function is announced to comemmorate the occasion, then all well and good!.

Just about six weeks away from this unique celebration....Wigan has been done...as has the Torch and Wheel...Now the Catacombs reaches a landmark date. I'm sure there are many still alive who attended the venue...care to express your thoughts and share your memories of the music, djs, characters....even pics?...personally, i only saw the last 6 months of it, before its closure but, it was my first proper venue and became a springboard to visiting other venues, and Northern Soul immersion...does this venue stand amongst the greats in your opinion?.

Noticed in today's Memories on fb, this wonderful Scots lass from Tayside...incredibly it's 10 YEARS since she sadly passed away. Anyone wish to comment and share memories,please do so.

Apologies in advance Mike, its obviously meant to be light hearted.....but its the truth😊

It will do if the tower footage goes viral

The disillusionment would be intense, if it wasn't for the fact there are plenty of venues were people still do act like grown adults and behave theirselves instead of selfishly resorting to not only just sending theirselves up, but every other innocent fooker in the building. Every chance of the Human Pyramid then?

They weren't all Red Necks, were they?

I cant argue with that Karl, all this " oh well, its only a laugh, get a life whats wrong with yer? " crap....ffs, making us all collectively look like a bunch of retarded geriatrics.....and they film it!!!......just the type of nonsense to play up to media and all their luvvies who still haven't got a clue what its all about, 50 years on....whatever next....last night of the Proms: a northern soul spectacular, with a houseful of fancy dress revellers singing to the FW anthem finale, waving their KTF flags.

Yes Jessie, I most certainly did and know exactly what you mean, and a lot of this crew frequented SITP the first few years...proper funky groove i reckon, not a saddle up and ride yer pony in sight!....er...deffo not any comparison with the tower

Well there you have it, i stand corrected..apologies to all concerned and surprised....i was not aware of this release and its actually 6 years old now! A bit much even if youre a completist, to buy a 4 lp box set just to acquire the track talked about, but of course there are numerous other numbers present that could be played out and perhaps warrant a 7 release....however, this is quite possibly the best candidate👍

On your last point, Ashton is definitely a place worth going to, as is Culcheth..and just now, a host of others where the music policy for one is very much diversified, as opposed to the almost commercialized cultural pursuits of the mass attended events

No...and definitely nit in the Motown 7's box sets either....completely unreleased, as it states on the Hip-Oselect cd comp

Yes Eddie, and well over 3 minutes long!, had that double cd as well....Hip-Oselect really were a champion, for the best part of 15 years, this is a great Supremes collection, first time this track appeared anywhere, a handful of others turned up on the original 25th Anniversary vinyl double album, having them all collectively under one roof is a tribute to this company's thorough research of the Motown archive, something they did to perfection with every group and artist..this track definitely warrants a 45 release.