Pete S

Well the scond one is have Love Will Travel by The Sonics, there's a thread about it somewhere on the board

Why do you give up and what makes you so righteous then?

It's exactly the same thing - for instance, 3 records arrived this morning, Yvonne Baker, The Miracles and Jeanette Williams. I'm going to sell those records for 1000% more than they originally cost to buy and the artist is not going to see a penny, neither is the songwriter or the music publisher. It was made, it existed,it flopped, it died - 35 years ago. Thats the end of the story for that particular record. What happens later doesn't make any difference. What is the difference between me selling original records which the artists will not earn a penny from, and selling a bootleg of the same thing? If I was a punter, I'd just be happy to be able to own a record that was out of my league price wise on an original. Like I said, I don't make these records, I and everyone else sell them though, I'd just like to know what makes you think I owe a debt to someone who made a record 40 years ago and why I should even care about the multi-millionaire Berry Gordy not earning 1 cent for me selling an original WD of Whole Lot Of Shaking Going On In My Heart or a pressing of a record he deemed unfit to even release by The Originals. One more thing - these records are not counterfeits, they are vague lookalikes, they have totally made up catalogue numbers, they appear on labels that the originals did not appear on (Cause You're Mint on Neptune for example) and they are never passed off as originals. You are talking about counterfeiting records which I dislike as much as anyone else.

Ellusins was booted but it looks nothing like the original and is on styrene. I still don't think this record is worth more than £125 yet Manship lists it for £600!!!!! And if anyone says well how many times have you seen it, I'd say I've had between 8 and 10 copies in the last 10 years. There's 3 or 4 boots of the Superlatives, the one with the lines has been booted, at least I believe it has!

Well seing as Dena Barnes (gardenia barnes) co wrote her own record she's hardly likely to be a child is she, and Little Ann was 20 years old when she recorded for ric tic.

Here you go

Can't scan Steve but I can put a photo up, wait a bit..

No, neither, N4 was done but on black label, jerry Cook done as an issue

I never went to yate but it was crap

Neither of those were children perhaps???

It was but they a non-hit single for Apple before that I think

Hippo, love that Ducky & The Glowlighters, sold Andy Rix's copy for him last year for - can't remember - 800 or a grand...

I've got an issue of Ty Karim - You really made it good on Romark here - mint, except for one thing - a half inch crack! It's enough to make a grown man cry

I've got an issue if anyone wants it. Manships latest price for an issue is £150 I'd be 50 quid cheaper than that, how do these people get away with it?

You can't say that, it might be common now but it's still nicely made if you get the real stuff, the little attention to detail and that. Duffer must be heavily counterfeited as I see loads round here and most of them are too common to wear it. One True Saxon do me a favour, would you wear something with that tacky logo on

yeah I do know the source but I can't comment on it, I just sell them as I have to make a living as do every other dealer who will stock them and have/do stock the previous ones. I don't think they make a bit of difference as far as the price of the original is concerned. People are still going to pay big money for rare records. Where records aren't rare in the first place like green door or gayle adams, no change there either. As for ripping off the artists and writers - long forgotten 35 year old records which didn't sell shit first time round, 300 new copies, artists wouldn't see any royalties anyway. It's a drop in the ocean. But like I said, I was just asked if I wanted to stock some titles so I said ok.

Souldrop, I've got a promo reel somewhere with a couple of very early promos, you've probably got them though - I think one is Believe In Love. This is the same tape that the Flirtations promo for Heartache came from which everyones seen now.

TK Maxx have got some really nice Schott jackets, black zip up hoodies with white furry lining bit like a sheepskin...I bought one, brilliant for dog walking etc. this winter...retail about £125, their price £50. Sometimes you can find a bit of CP Company stuff as well but you have to look very hard for it.

Yes. Only seen 2, jackie edwards on a red and white island and lenny curtis on the blue End label - really good lookalikes - but all number details changed so there's no mistaking them from the originals

Overlong overrated sack of cack

I bought a load of records off Les McCutheon about 5 years ago, he was based in Fulham. I think a lot othe records belonged to neil Rushton. he was still in the music biz and had gold discs everywhere...

OK mate have to go now but will get onto it after I've done my duty

Yeah but thats just a datestamp mate, you get them even now, in offices etc...and yes they are all white, other colours were red and green I think

All oldies - no rarities really - shouldn't upset too many I wouldn't have thought. Suspicion/Inst-The Originals(Soul) Nothing Can Help You Now-Lenny Curtis(End) Don't Take It Out On This World-Adams Apples/Sweetest Thing-Channel 3 (Brunswick) Baby I Need Your Loving-Gayle Adams/The Game Is Over-Brown Sugar(Capitol) Aint Nothing Like Your Love-Charisma Band/Turning My Heartbeat Up-MVP's (Buddah) Deep Dark Secret-De Dee Sharp/ Just Don't Know(Parkway) Scotts On Swingers-Edwin Starr /Can't Stop Lookin For My Baby-Fantastic Four(Ric Tic) Moonlight Music and You-Laura Greene/Lucky To Be Loved By You-Willie Hutch(RCA) Let Your Heart and Soul Be Free-Tangeers /This Heart Of Mine-The Artistics(Okeh) A Little Bit Hurt-Julian Covey /Green Door-Wynder K Frog(Island) Our Love Will Grow/Youre Everything-The Showmen(Swan) I Still Love You-Seven Souls/Right Track-Billy Butler(Okeh) Surprise Party For Baby/Cause Youre Mine-The Vibrations(Neptune) I Feel So Bad/Alt duet version-Jackie Edwards(Island)