Pete S

It is a boot, I can remember when they were done and who did them, it's worth 5 to 10 quid and should be advertised as a 100% bootleg.

That particular Lou Pride didn't come from Sundown, I gave that one to Karen back in 1976! This one came in some collection. But Sundown must have stopped in early 76 as I remember getting World Column b/w Frankie Crocker late 75, and your Larry santos / Zola more or less the same time. They stayed open until 1979, I bought a copy of the Sex Pistols bootleg Indecent Exposure from there very late 70's.

Don't forget though Steve, maybe the reason you find them not too exciting is because you've heard them all over the last 35 years, whereas a lot of people weren't even born when we started going so the tracks may well be newies to them.

Yes extremely sad but Rod, circumstances are different for some of us, I thought at 50+ I'd be off doing whatever I liked, except I've got a second family now, kids aged 3 & 6, and that has severely clipped my wings, so things like that must take a chunk out of the numbers of potential punters.

In my opinion, there's nothing more useless than an acetate which has been pressed, bootlegged or officially reissued, so I regard these as junk and I only tend to keep them if they have tracks which actually never did come out on reissues, like I have things like Lou Pride b/w Pointer Sisters, absolutely no value whatsoever as far as I'm concerned (though I kept it because the Lou Pride is off an original and is about 6 seconds longer than the bootleg). To sum up - acetates that people had made up for them like these shouldn't really have any value, but I've seen some go on ebay.

I will do. But theres one of the problems, I got so fed up with going out and hearing the same records that I just stopped completely, which is why I'm not up with a lot of things played in the last 5 years. Right, so go to places where they do play them you say; well no, I can't be bothered anymore, too old to get enthusiastic I'm afraid. Such a shame that refosoul continues to stay unavailable because that was a great way of hearing records. I'm not saying I haven't heard more than ten of them, I know the titles and artists of a lot of them, but can't place them. But when you say that most of them are oldies, you'd have to redefine that cos the only oldies pertanent to me there are: eddie holman, irene & scotts, roy redmond, sugarpie desanto, eugene jefferson, robert parker - I don't know how any of the others go, off the top of my head.

If you want an actual honest opinion - I only knew 10 of those records - that would mean just too many unknown (to me) records, it would need breaking up a bit more with oldies, and I don't mean Moses Smith or Tomangoes, I mean say Little Charles, Drake & Ensolids, Gloria & T-Airas sort of thing.

It's not a soul record in the slightest, it's a reggae record, with a reggae rhythm, what makes it a soul record?

Ella Fitzgerald? UK Stateside...

Reggae records don't count!

It's bloomin' tough being knowledgable in both fields, trust me, there aren't many of us are there Tim, so anyone who knows their way around Jamaican music AND soul music does deserve a bit of credit. Plus who says you can't collect both?

01902 326306 pete.smith@freeuk.com JUST THE THREE NO OFFERS THANKS BEN ZINE - VILLAGE OF TEARS - PARKWAY *** ISSUE *** Pretty sure this is the first time I've ever seen an authentic orange stock copy of this, they're always white demos. Won't crop up again for a long long time. Bell Sound stamped and in beautiful mint minus condition. £200 HARRY STARR - ANOTHER TIME, ANOTHER PLACE / STEP INTO MY WORLD - END Brilliant double sider, especially the beat ballad "Step", awesome NYC soul. Excellent condition. £175 BETTY MOORER - SPEED UP - WAND Excellent condition STOCK COPY, has a small red pen mark on label otherwise perfect. Goes up in price every month! £150 POST £6 SPECIAL CHEERS PETE

Very good point Tim. There are hundreds of collectors who don't play out and / or remain under the radar. Several times when I've sold collections for people, they've been people I knew, but never suspected what they had.

Probably misunderstood but I think he was saying that they are oldies, except they're pretty good and not played out ones in the main - I'd certainly like to listen to stuff like this.

I'll answer for him. Yes it is.

Spot on Joe.

Blimey these take me back, judging by the content of these, the first one I would date to March / April 1978 and the second to June / July 1978. What's interesting about these is that Carol & Gerri is listed on there under it's cover up name, did anyone remember it was covered as Epitome Of Sound, because I sure didn't. Some horrible selections on there: Black Power, Burning Bush, Phil Coulter. Of course all of these tracks on both discs eventually got pressed not long after. I think these came from Crispie's house when he died, his Dad gave me his LP's and these were inside some album cover, but the writing on the Burning Bush one is definitely mine so I probably bought that out of Pep's shop and sold it on to him. Not sure about the second one. Paul Clifford, memory man, have you ever clapped eyes on these before?

PETE SMITH 01902 326306 pete.smith@freeuk.com MIXED BAG - ALL ORIGINALS - SOME OBSCURE, SOME KNOWN USA ORIGINALS AZIE MORTIMER - PUT YOURSELF IN MY PLACE - SWAN DEMO EX- 25 HANK JACOBS - ELIJAH ROCKIN WITH SOUL - CALL ME EX- 30 SOLD Read carefully - nice copy, plays superbly, but is missing it's label on the A side. 100% original though CHARLES RUSSELL - IT AIN'T EASY - PSYCHE 50 SOLD This is mint but has a hairline crack not affecting play, it plays mint, not a single click - it's a 200+ record THE BOYS BLUE - YOU GOT WHAT I WANT / TAKE A HEART - HMV ITALY DEMO EX 40 Fantastic freakbeat double sider on an impossible Italian white demo copy JOEY DEE & THE STARLIGHTERS - GOOD LITTLE YOU - JUBILEE EX 15 JUST BROTHERS - THINGS WILL BE BETTER - EMPIRE VG+ 25 LOUIS CURRY - CAPTIVATED - MS VG+ 20 AL DOWNING - I'M JUST NOBODY - POLYDOR M- 25 TIMI YURO - CAN'T STOP RUNNING AWAY - MERCURY WOL EX 15 RENEE ROBERTS - ACHING HEART - PHOENIX M 30 Haunting beat ballad / midtempo tune, lovely Hear it here https://www.divshare....ad/18483200-f60 SPYDER TURNER - I CAN'T MAKE IT ANYMORE - MGM EX 10 J.B. LOVE - NO ONE ELSE BUT YOU - KAPP DEMO EX 10 BOBBY BLAND - SHOES - DUKE VG 5 GIVEN AWAY First 30 seconds have that distinctive "sound of bacon frying" quality Actually if anyone wants the above you can have it for free if you pay the postage TAMMY LEVON - SHOW ME THE WAY - NATION EX 20 Forgotten Stafford oldie THE RIVINGTONS - I LOVE YOU ALWAYS - VEEJAY EX 30 SOLD CAROL CHANDLER - TIME HASN'T CHANGED YOU - STEEL CITY EX 30 WE THE PEOPLE - (ONLY) ONE OF A KIND / IF WE CAN FLY TO THE MOON - MAP CITY M 40 HONEY & THE BEES - HELP ME - JOSIE EX+ 10 DONNIE ELBERT - GOT TO GET MYSELF TOGETHER - RARE BULLET EX 25 If you've not heard this, it's absolutely superb Northern / Crossover SILK - FALLING IN LOVE ISN'T EASY - NATION 15 Has a little edge crack - clicks first 3 rotations then fine. SWOL WEAPONS OF PEACE - THIS LIFE'S (ABOUT TO GET ME DOWN) - PLAYBOY DEMO M- 15 LITTLE JERRY WILLIAMS - BABY YOU'RE MY EVERYTHING - CALLA EX 15 THE LOVELITES - I FOUND A LOVER - BANDERA EX 20 Dark blue label. Another underplayed/forgotten beauty NORMA JENKINS - CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT - DESERT MOON EX 8 THE JHAMELS - A ROAD TO NOWHERE - LIBERTY EX 20 Nice dancer, very "Carolinas" sound ROBERTA WEBB & THE FAVOURITES - MY MAMA SAYS - EMANUEL VG++ OFFERS Pounding R & B - stroke - Rock & Roll I guess, I know nothing about it except that it could really get people up and dancing....male / female duet, absolutely totally unknown as far as I can tell. Has some label damage. Hear it here https://www.divshare....ad/18483170-7d3 CHUCK JACKSON - HAND IT OVER / LOOK OVER YOUR SHOULDER - WAND EX 15 SOLD JAMIE - THE PRICELESS GEM - MGM DEMO M- 15 MIKE & THE MODIFIERS - I FOUND MYSELF A BRAND NEW BABY - GORDY DEMO EX 15 SPOOKY & SUE - I'VE GOT THE NEED - BELGIAN DECCA W/PIC SLEEVE EX 25 THE WANDERERS - YOU CAN'T RUN AWAY FROM ME - UNITED ARTISTS M 40 A COUPLE OF ACETATES TIMOTHY CARR - I WANT MY LOVIN' FROM YOU / GOT NO TIME - IMPACT SOUND ACETATE EX 25 SOLD Proper metal acetate, I am presuming this is not from the 60's but from the 90's but it sure looks the part THE COLT 45'S - LADY LADY / THE CASHMERES - LET THE DOOR HIT YOUR BACK - ACETATE EX 25 Another metal acetate, don't think Colt 45's has been reissued or bootlegged MONIQUE - IF YOU LOVE ME (SHOW ME) - BELL SOUND STUDIOS ACETATE EX 100 SOLD OK now this is not a real Bell Sound Studios acetate but I've never yet met anyone who didn't think it was one. I did the label and it looks absolutely real. The number of people who used to check this out when I dj'd with it. It's a metal acetate, and of course Monique has never been pressed or bootlegged anyway. I cut it when I had the original gold label Maurci copy. Don't want to sell this as it's in my top 3 of all time but needs must! Here is a scan of it https://www.divshare....ad/18483324-8c5 Cheers POSTAGE £2.30 UP TO 3 RECORDS THEN 10p EACH AFTER OVERSEAS I'LL QUOTE YOU PAYMENT paypal, card, bank transfer etc Paypal name is pete.smith@freeuk.com

Just asking again about this because the person who gave me the record has asked me to try and sell it. Before anyone says anything - this is not my particular taste in music and I am not making any claims to it being brilliant alright https://www.divshare.com/download/18483170-7d3

I just dug this out and you're right, Gotta get Myself Together is brilliant!

Sweets should never be four figures in the first place should it? £600 or so?

Yep, fantastic record, really underrated I reckon. And not just because I have a mint demo on sale for £50

No that was the idea - make people think it was the Righteous brothers. I collect records like this, Spector soundalikes, and there are several that sound exactly like The RB's - Kane & Abel, Knickerbockers - Wishful thinking etc.

OK will rephrase - it was ONCE owned by him, in fact I think he helped found it. Wiki will know. Or Tony Rounce.

Sorry but have to laugh at this, the singers name is Jimmy CLANTON, look how the seller spelt it https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOP-RANK-45-JIMMY-CLACTON-ANOTHER-SLEEPLESS-NIGHT-rare-record-/190692239709?pt=UK_Records&hash=item2c6624a95d#ht_500wt_1415