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No, the Tonar aren’t Jico. I’ve actually ordered a Jico, but at £120, I’m hoping it will be as good as the original White Label was, The Tonar is just horrible.

I’ve been using Shure White Label carts since they were first introduced. When I think of the hardly used styli that I have binned in the past, it makes me sick. When I ran my all-nighters, I changed them every second event. They were only £20 apiece back then. Why oh why did I not think of keeping them? Now that Shure have stopped making cartridges altogether, I’m in need of a new stylus. I was recommended to buy the Tonar replacement. It’s crap 💩 The Jaco look good, but at £120 plus import charges!!! So can anyone recommend a cart that is of similar quality and performance to the original White Label, and has replacement styli that doesn’t cost an arm or a leg. Quality of sound is very important, and good tracking, and low wear characteristics.

This was the CD that I first read it on.

I remember reading these sleeve notes many years ago on a CD, and it’s taken me ages to remember which disc it was, and to find another copy. Superb bit of nostalgia from Dave Evison.

I can’t believe that Julian. You must have been on some good gear. 🤣

Well, I wasn’t the only one. There were a lot of people there that night, that have been on the scene a long time, and a load of them ran up to the stage to see what it was. I remember that one of them was Flanny. And it was available at that time for peanuts, until that night, when after, the price shot up. Those hundreds of people you were playing it to, obviously weren’t going out and buying it. It was never played again at Burnley, and Fred is very embarrassed to be linked with it. Can’t understand why, it’s a brilliant dancer.

I remember seeing it on paper lists all through the 70’s. Very cheap. I’d never heard the record, until one night at my all-nighter, Fred Krol dropped the needle on it. The reaction was amazing. Many people rushed up to the decks to see what it was. After packing up, and finally getting home. I went on the internet thinking, I need to get a couple of copies of that record, before the price rockets. It was always around for £10. I couldn’t find a single copy. Obviously, half the people who were there that night had beaten me to it. Price shot up over night, and it started to get plays everywhere. This would have been early 2000’s. It’s definitely a marmite record, but it is a great dance tune.

I know which one I’d have.

The Palmer recording is far superior in sound quality.

It’s not just boats mate. I’m very much into my cars, and I can’t really afford to be. But I bought a little cheap classic anyway, and now I’ve got so much money invested in it, that I can’t afford to sell it. Same with my fishing, I’ve always got to have the best gear. So again, thousands of pounds spent. We’re only here once, so I just keep spending. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Get yourself another hobby/interest. My other interests leave me without the means to buy records. 🤣

I’ve never understood the whole collecting thing. I back in the early 70’s I bought a lot of stuff blind. That’s just the way it was then, no YouTube or internet. I’ve never been wealthy enough to buy huge numbers of records. Since those early days, I’ve only ever bought records that blew me away, and that I wanted to play to other people. I always loved Dj’ing. Once that was over, I couldn’t sell up quickly enough. I had too much money invested in them. Everything I ever owned, I have recorded in full files, and can hear anytime, anywhere on multiple media devices. I’ve also borrowed some fantastic vinyl from friends, and in return supplied them with recordings. “Things” don’t belong to us, we only look after them for the next person.

Doesn’t sound anything like it to me. 🤷🏻‍♂️

It sounds like an unfinished demo to me. It could have been so much better with some strings to fill out the sparse arrangement.

Unfortunately it’s not the volume they turn up, it’s the gains! Which sounds terrible, and will kill your speakers.

A friend of mine used to Dj for me, there was no way he would cue up his records. We had some lovely long silences during his spot, with everyone looking around to see what was up. 🤣🤦‍♂️ If you’re going be a promoter, then for goodness sake try and be professional. Quality sound system. Including a quality microphone. Turntables adjusted correctly, with regular new styli. Sound system set up correctly, without making people’s ears bleed.

So you know better than Ortofon? Let’s just agree to disagree. 👍

To allow for back cueing.

You are quoting from an audiophile publication, which is aimed at getting the absolute perfect reproduction, in a perfect setting. The video that I posted, is produced by a leading stylus manufacturer, and shows how to set up your turntable in a club setting. i.e. full of people banging and crashing about, and clumsy Dj’s trying to cue up the next record. Also your quoted publication would, I’m pretty sure, be primarily concerned with 12” albums. There is more skate pressure present on albums than 7” singles.

I agree with the weight comment, but I always leave the anti skate off when back cuing.

That’s the other problem with promoters and Dj’s. Most haven’t got a clue about PA, they can’t set one up, and they just turn the gains up, until it's making your ears bleed. They think nothing about paying thousands for a record, but buy the cheapest pile of crap to play it on. Including the microphone,

It’s a nightmare as a promoter. I used to have to arrange the timetable to make certain that we never had two non speakers on one after the other. Otherwise it would kill the night.

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