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It seems to be the last release on the Polo label and the first release on that Hot Line label still using the Polo numbering system. This Hot Line label only saw another last release before folding down. So ?

About all is the same both baring the same Moira cataloging numeration. Even the pressing plant is the same. Only on the Moira under the logo the studio indication is not featured on Karen makes it "different" AND the 'plug side' feature. Discogs informations are 'open sources' and so is fed of whatever as well as worthwhile informations. On Discgs it even states that the Karen has a 'misprint' !? This is way too open source for me :))) Maybe Ollie had a little make up my mind/change my mind/ make up my mind again confusion episode kind of fling for a little while there. The odd bit is that both labels got a demo release for promotional purposes...

Oh well, that just makes it official maybe... Somehow. It's been like so for almost 10 days for some parcel on my side; frozen USPS tracking. Patience is a virtue. I am and I'll just live with it fine like the confinement. The situation is bad enough. Still this goes to show that they just don't know how to handle this pandemic in coherence. That is seriously lacking. Even before day 1 ! This goes to show how bad and unresilient this modern economy (and = political) model of "ours" (imposed on us: the world) is. Only those responsible for this man made mess do benefit from safe havens like the the pharmaceutical laboratories, industries and Chinese (French and USA mainly accomplices, others silent witnesses) authorities in the large and broad sense.

Sadly although I love her voice, Laura is an artist that never benefited the productions nor the materials to seduce me. Only kept her 45 'if I'm good enough to marry...'. Seing this revived thread and willing to give her another "chance" wondering what else I could have missed, it's with great skepticism that I lent an ear to her version of the almighty cover of Holland, Dozier, Holland tune and now I need one. TUNE !

If you read one of my previous post I did mention 'shame' by her. Values ? Valerie Lamar Discogs sales history. First of her I 'gotta get away' better IMO but less rare. BTW I also did mention this sole crazy last sale; is it a 'boost' attempt to 'pump up' the price ? Then of her 'shame' 45...

Not sure there's any variation for this single wether it being a white label stocker or a promotional copy without saying it is 😉

You mean 'together forever' which I love but it's really nothing rare. Even more smooth than the Valerie Lamar. Or his 'hello pretty baby' which is indeed "northern-y" and his most common record with an evident Bobby 'Blue' Bland-esque approach.

On Boss then ? But was that played on the soul scene ?? Stafford ??? 😉

Yes 'shame' by Valerie Lamar also on Dee Dee more "northern-y" but wacky somehow. Has charm but it's... And not worth much more although indeed a tad rarer but there's a reason for that 🧐

Me sorry then 😉 so again; which record is that on Dee Dee that fetches more like much ?

Which one is that ?

Yes nice little smooth crossover in the proper sense that's hard to value because not "common" nor "rare". Between £20 and £40 if that can be consider a 'ballpark' range. But Discogs sale's history show some crazy prices it sold for lately... Is there something going on with this record that in the soul circles we're not yet aware of ?

Did not know that. Can you attest the she is doing the lead in there ?

Oui you Roman - me Gaulois ! 😉 You're absolutely right there. But moving from one spot to the other... Trying to establish the link where the Texas connection being their "last" phase for the same gang or about for thee guys and doll.

From Brico maligno post on 'YT' for Phyllis Brown 'Oh baby'... Fantastic somehow.

Confirmation on the who's who from Discogs (only checked now DOH !) 'profile' edit of the group like in the pic and rather well put so here we go; There are at least seven documented Nomads groups that were performing during the 60's garage soul era, and this particular group (one of three known South Carolina Nomads), came together in the Greenville, SC area to record one truly significant tune, 1968's SOMETHING'S BAD, for their own Mo-Groov Records. The act, featuring vocalist Sonny Threatt, later morphed into the duo Sunny & Phyllis backed by The Danes (3), cutting some memorable sides for Uni Records and for Major Bill Smith's Soft Records enterprise in Ft. Worth, TX. Most all of their recording endeavors went down at Joe Huffman's Mark V Studio in Greenville.

Please ignore my opening comments here since I was too quick thinking first that is was a credits 'cover-up' bootleg operation only realizing after that is just was a cover take of the Chuck Cockerham by the 'Nomads' made by and for the American beach-scene. That 'nomad' playing Chuck bootleg on a semi legit label is just more crap stuffs dished out by some smart ass "joker" minds. No need to dig further into it IMO as it's just another pollution pressing job like many cheap reissues and bootlegs alike that are still being pressed in quantities to O.D. ! 🤢 On the Sunny and Phyllis matter this is a very interesting link with the Nomads on Mo-Groov I find. Finally we have a photo of the band that captures the group alas ! And indeed the duet on Le Cam and Zuma do share similar musical sonorities. The voices work out are different but not of another tone and phrasing. And their later records on UNI sounds could be a match as well and they are 'Mark V' published, so still based in Texas. Both other Phyllis Brown out LA for Rainbo records and Phyllis Brown (Charity) from Rain 'out of my life' (fame 😕) are other evidently people.

That is the Desmond Dekker's 'Israelite' lyric symptom. Every time you heard it heard it you heard different lyrics... 🤠 But it's the same song. Play a record out that you thought first was "shite" 🥶 Only a committed "northern soul" DJ could do that 😜 That I just couldn't. But indeed I am not a DJ, only occasionally, and I can fill the floor with the same commitment as to keep it empty for pure solo musical pleasure. Mods and Rockers might have a hard time there but who cares right ? On the same note I must admit that some records that were not doing much for me in the first place when occasionally played out loud could take another 'wider' dimension 🚀 Making me wonder/thinking for 5 minutes if maybe I didn't got it right on the first hearing. But once I stop to wonder/thinking, the heart sets the record straight again. 😉

Not that I am necessary good at that but after 9 years and a half and yet no one posted this one 😱 A real grower !

Would it rather be not the other way around whatever the real figures are... 900 (or less) sold and 100 (or more) went "in the trunk" of Jerry's car to be smashed and melted back. Which was the way in the USA before the unsold records found their way into the 'drilled' and 'cut outs' sales stacks. Would Jerry Reed really do a repress of a record with a revised "easier" artist credit that did not sell some in the first place ? I seem to remember reading that 'somewhere there is a paradise' had some air play success amongst the teens and high school circles. And that seems rather plausible.

Coronavirus skeptic at a younger age; freaky Why Jack ? Right wing, left wing, but not that twat... 😭

Yes they are made from the very same stamper believe.

The same guy with the blurb & snippet who sold his L. Allen on the evilBay as shown here above sold a (at least one) Larry Allen as well... Does he have that 900 batch copies out of Jerry's car trunk ? 😉

OK, this is a great little piece of paper and could leave us to understand that the Larry Allen is a rerun/second release to supply either a public demand or a re-promotion campaign for the 'somewhere there is paradise' side as this article from mid 1966 highlight to back-up the label company "hit" records. So if we could understand that the record was issued first by fall 1965 as L. Allen And A Band Of Angels which is not the best name to promote even more so for the DJs on air-play to say the least. Still facing up with some local success (or further some) a smart move would be to simplify the credits while repress it. A bit like the Edwin Starr on Ric-Tic first batch title 'Agent OO Soul' quickly changed to 'Agent double O soul' due to issue for the radio DJs to present/promote the record title correctly. Maybe was the Larry Allen was (re-)pressed for similar reasons. Even if it should have been Leonard Allen... The numbering catalogue of Jerry Reed's Jeree and Green Dolphin labels seem of utter simplicity. As the labels here below show the numbering starts with the last two numbers of the year (65-66) followed by the chronology of issued sides (1 & 2, 3 & 4, 5 & 7...) leaving little doubt for the year of release. So L. Allen was 65-7 & 65-8. The Larry Allen release used the same number. Even with a gap after this 65-7 & 65-8 Green Dolphin release with the only following number I could find being the Caprees on Jeree 66-13 & 66-14 as quoted in the small paper article from May 1966. So L. Allen is 1965 and Larry Allen 1966 maybe ?

No it's older and taken 'as is' from the eVilBay auction guy who was friend with L. Allen who took it from somewhere on the net. I've read that bit before as from a text borrowed somewhere else... About to become a legend 🤗 Even on '45cat.com' it's copied, pasted and commented as such...