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You didn't know that one ? I think there's also the kitchen wall clock for those with very distinguished taste...

No, that's actually the first/local press. Sound, picture quality as color is rather faint in that video to say the least...

Wow ! Thanks for pointing that out. Yes they are both defo Jamaican issues. All the typos are right ! Federal records pressing plant. Really nice ! I always preferred the 'give it up' side and kept it for that side. Another detail I just discovered now and love; 'give it up' is the "plug side" on the Jamie/Guyden distributed promo copies...

Hi Ted, good luck with your quest. It might be a detail (but I do love them) to you but there is no WDJ copy of this very first press (even harder to find). It's only when it got picked up by Jamie/Guyden for national distribution that it got the white label promotional press. Hence the one that went on the EvilBay, a first/local press only had a demo stamp ! Cheers, Tim

the Ballads – I can’t see your love (part 2) Larry Atkins – lighten up Rock Candy – alone with no love the Sunlover’s – my poor heart Cliff Nobles – too found of you Valerie & Nick – I’ll find you the Broasways – you just don’t know the Just Brothers – you’ve got the love to make me over the Detroit Emeralds – holding on Bobby Long & the Dealers – I gotta have love too the Vegas – I need your love the Fuzz – I love you for all seasons (instrumental)

This from the EvilBay past sales

Well, I'm awaiting my black labelled copy through the mail-box by this week. Also I should have the visit of a friend who has the yellow label copy. I will ask him to bring it along and I'll record them both into mp3. In a matter of 2 weeks or so I will have in my PSU & tachometer combo and will then be able to pitch the speed of my turntable to great and stable accuracy. I will then re-record my black label copy pitched down at 40 rpm making a 270 seconds song into a 325 seconds one ! And then we'll see and hear if we have a match !

It can't be about politics, jealousy or ethnicity. Let's not put the rich against the poor, the knowledgeable dissing the gullible or the young mocking the old. I started as a 16 year old when I bought my first soul 45's recommended by elders with my pennies. Then got to dig after school in records shop listening the hundreds of 45's and choose between them as I couldn't afford them all ! Finally, travelled around and bought to sell and fund my buys and doing a lot of trading. I was never rich but I did struggle for my records on to which I found my music. And to grace them, they had to be the way I want them; original USA, supa clean looking and playing. Most of the time back then, I was crate digging and bought many records I only heard for the very first time. I'm based in Belgium and didn't go much to clubs then. Now, I have to work harder to get the bits I know, want and can afford. I'm still not rich, I know my bits but not to some others on here, nor am I young as I used to be, so I know my place. No major collector (I never kept a record I didn't like anymore), not a DJ (only occasionally) and not a know it all but I have my ethics. I did buy some bootlegs at one time (pre-tinternet) days. I just don't anymore. The mp3 crap format is good enough for that. But I doubt that those doing the bootlegs and look-a-like reissues are 14 years old pleasing them selves and that those buying them are all 14 years old all the same... Back then, it was done. But today, is not then and maybe people don't learn by history... It was one day called the "rare soul" scene. So it was about discovering, putting into light and pushing the limits. Where is a bootleg/re-issue doing any of that ?

Hi Ricky, I've seen that page and there is no info there ! It's just a not very discerning hip-funkster thing on tinternet. As far as I've understood the black label was first issued (from unissued tapes). But no info as to when. Then that yellow reworked (slowed down, added strings and muffled sound) odd version came out... and some seem to still prefer that one ?! Cheers, Tim

And indeed the yellow copy have "added" strings to a "muffled" sound...

I'm yet to have either copy in hand to compare them black & yellow copies side by side visually and sonically and point out differences. I can only judge from sound clips from tinternet and that source is only too vague if even reliable. Up to now, I've read only bits about the record like that it was previously unissued but was it really ? Does anyone out there have the story about the record and both black and yellow label issues. The black one sounds right (as it looks) where the yellow looks odd and sounds like it's been pitched down.

first local second national stock West-Coast Don't know anything about a pressing really...

Two WLP variations, the Curtom (first/local) and the the Atlantic (second/national) distributed. As both red issues. Third variations west-Coast issue ultra light pink (no promo I believe) as the Saxie Russell.

Record is graded Vg++ due to edge heat burn that is barely audible and visually only cause the slightest warp (NAP). Slight wear on label. spencer wiggins.mp3 £25 Free P&P all around the world +£6 to have it registered PM me to reserve or for inquiries scans & sound clip from actual copy for sale as usual with needle drop & lift... Grading through Ex, VG, G... ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Rarer French copy in nice Ex shape complete with sleeve of this club flute classic ! herbie mann.mp3 £25 Free P&P all around the world +£6 to have it registered PM me to reserve or for inquiries scans & sound clip from actual copy for sale as usual with needle drop & lift... Grading through Ex, VG, G... ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Nice white demo in Ex condition of this worthwhile yet barely played out dancer. little charles.mp3 £25 Free P&P all around the world +£6 to have it registered PM me to reserve or for inquiries scans & sound clip from actual copy for sale as usual with needle drop & lift... Grading through Ex, VG, G...

Ex- copy that plays great and looks overall Ex condition. The styrene is Ex- due to some scuffs but nothing ugly looking or affecting play. Slightly off center but NAP on my turntable. Scans and sound clip from actual copy for sale. £75 free P&P all over the world PM for inquiries carstairs.mp3

It's actually a very Lo-Fi bootleg steal from the Ohio Players "budget" LP named '16 greatest hits' then on the double LP 'Superpak' both on Trip (label).

Both the "silver" (only/no white) imprint on blue paper label use the same label stamper on your example where only the logo design differs and as you pointed with the matrix they pressed in different pressing plants. So I doubt that one is really a first press. All (with few exception) the Constellation promotional copies then used the flat design. It was the "new" design. I guess that they had left overs of the old design pre-printed labels here and there and they were using the new as well as the old labels at the same time as in the different pressing plants. Most of the Constellation catalogue numbers from N°149 (mid 1964) to N°173 (late 1965) had both the star and flat label variation. Then you also have the 'Monarch' styrene pressings with the beautiful darker blue colored label with the real white logo and star sky.

Hi's and Lo's boots I hate them all ! Look-a-likes reissues do the same for me. Some say they are right because they are legit but it's only copyright to Sony Music most of the time for cheap money. Then they overflow the market... So the effort and the financial involvement for the "manufacturer" is rather worthless IMHO. As their products. Now in this day and age I'm not shocked to see reissues being bootlegged really. Some are now (it's been a little while though) collecting these old Grapevine reissues 45's. The bootleg by definition is made to fool the buyer and rip-off the originators. So if they were part of (the wrong side) of the scene once, they still can be in (still on the wrong side of) today's scene I should think.

PM'd you back son... oh, I meant Kidd !

The record itself is in Ex condition and the creased sleeve is a Vg only with sticker mark, stamp and number written on front sleeve and SWOC on flip. Still OK copy. sammy davis jr.mp3 £25 Free P&P all around the world +£6 to have it registered PM me to reserve or for inquiries scans & soundclip of both sides from actual copy for sale as usual with needle drop & lift... Grading through Ex, VG, G...

Evergreen blue eyed soul original USA press on VINYL in nice EX condition ! starecase.mp3 £20 Free P&P all around the world +£6 to have it registered PM me to reserve or for inquiries scans & soundclip of both sides from actual copy for sale as usual with needle drop & lift... Grading through Ex, VG, G...

The Exotics 'let me be a part of you' and flip 'let's try to build up a love affair'. Overall Ex copy with sticker mark/glue and 'x' on deep soul flip. exotics.mp3 £15 Free P&P all around the world +£6 to have it registered PM me to reserve or for inquiries scans & soundclip of both sides from actual copy for sale as usual with needle drop & lift... Grading through Ex, VG, G... __________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Jay & the Americans 'lin' above your head' on Canadian United Artists. Overall Ex with a black dot mark. jay americans.mp3 £15 !!! SOLD !!! Free P&P all around the world +£6 to have it registered PM me to reserve or for inquiries scans & soundclip of both sides from actual copy for sale as usual with needle drop & lift... Grading through Ex, VG, G... _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The Malibus 'I just can't stand it' overlooked side in superb Ex(+) condition. malibus.mp3 £25 Free P&P all around the world +£6 to have it registered PM me to reserve or for inquiries scans & soundclip of 'A' side from actual copy for sale as usual with needle drop & lift... Grading through Ex, VG, G... _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Dewey Edwards's rarer Holland press in Ex condition overal. dewey edward.mp3 £25 Free P&P all around the world +£6 to have it registered PM me to reserve or for inquiries scans & soundclip of 'A' side from actual copy for sale as usual with needle drop & lift... Grading through Ex, VG, G...

Following the thread on the Class-Mates versus the Coronadas on Bright Star "sussing (himself actually)" on (his) Johnny Moore's small hit 'sold on you', here is the lesser known but well worth it double sider from THE MAN. 'A' side is a wonderful deep-swinger tune using the same backing track of his 'let's get it together' on Larry-O but bringing a totally different tune on it with extra strings to great effect IMHO. And the 'B' side is flanked with a totally worthy 6T's dancer that I understand is getting some spins on the Northern Front... Overall condition is Ex to Ex- (label stain and wear) as most seem to have suffer. Especially this rarer yellow stocker. johnny moore.mp3 !!! SOLD !!! £40 Free P&P all around the world +£6 to have it registered PM me to reserve or for inquiries scans & soundclip of both sides from actual copy for sale as usual with needle drop & lift... Grading through Ex, VG, G...

MARVIN GAYE & TAMMI TERRELL 'ain't no mountain high enough' b/w 'your precious love' French original issue in Ex+ condition of this evergreen track with the real 'A' side underlined !!! £30 Free P&P all around the world +£6 to have it registered PM me to reserve or for inquiries scans & soundclip of both sides from actual copy for sale as usual with needle drop & lift... Grading through Ex, VG, G... mountain.mp3 PAT LEWIS 'warning' b/w 'I'll wait' VG+ copy with swol and scuffs and one scratch on the 'I'll wait' side. £30 Free P&P all around the world +£6 to have it registered PM me to reserve or for inquiries scans & soundclip of both sides from actual copy for sale as usual with needle drop & lift... Grading through Ex, VG, G... warning.mp3 PRINCE & PRINCESS BUSTER 'the ten commandments from woman to man' b/w 'ain't that saying a lot' EX copy of this wife answer to her macho spouse classic tune and the rock-steady flip side. £30 Free P&P all around the world +£6 to have it registered PM me to reserve or for inquiries scans & soundclip of both sides from actual copy for sale as usual with needle drop & lift... Grading through Ex, VG, G... commandments.mp3

Yes Csiborg, your links are F*c*Book links and if when like me your ethics prevent you to go down that way, you can't access there sadly. Very nice record nonetheless ! Cheers, Tim