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From the date of the article & the reference in it to "How Can I Tell Her" having been in local record shops for 3 weeks, it seems that it was released around the 10th October 1979.

"Chills & Fever" did well on the radio up in New York .... ... probably due to Atlantic distributing Dial & getting behind the 45 ... ... guess that exposure helped in Paul's later decision to relocate to the city ....

An article about Curtis / Curtis Anderson ............

I was thinking (when I made my comment) of 1990's or Y2K tracks Bob. I'd agree that in the early days (70's) of 12"ers, the 7" was the 'normal' version with the 12" being an extended take on that (usually mixed after the event by a specialist such as Tom Moulton).

Richard lives in St Helens nowadays....there's a big conversation in there that I'm opting out of haha. ...... quite right too .... don't ask most of the artists whose tracks appeared on those 12"ers what they think of him.

Get it quick coz it seems French WEA put out the Sam Dees CD without realising that US WEA don't hold undisputed rights to the album.

The 12" version is usually taken (by soul fans; I have no idea about NS'ers) as the definitive take .... .... with the 7" edit just being a shortened version the record company can fit onto the smaller disc. So the 7" is usually the 'poorer' version. Though with some 8 min long 12" tracks, i prefer dancing (at my age) to the shorter version.

Do you have any details on when & the cause ? (I know he had been ill for some time).

Born in Florida, but brought up (& based) in Canada ..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGLY-e8AXdo

A Billboard ad from 1972 .....

Can't find anything on the net about his passing .... AND ... ... as he had 9 US Soul 45 Chart entries, you would have thought that the US music press would have reported his passing.

It's being reported that Paul Kelly had passed away in South Carolina. Anyone know if this is true and have any details of the circumstances ? INFO on Paul .......... https://www.soulcella...yinterview.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy7xhuTxZhM This post has been promoted to an article

Another date on that UK tour was ............ ABC Cinema Edinburgh ..... 20th March 1967 Roy Orbison, The Small Faces, Paul & Barry Ryan, The Jeff Beck Group, The Settlers, Sonny Childe & The TNT, The Robb Storme Group, & Ray Cameron (compere). Sonny & the group were the opening act on the bill. A gig the group did at the Mojo in Sheffield is one of my wife's top memories of her visits to the allniters held at the venue. That's because, during the group's performance, Sonny pulled a couple of girls up to dance on stage with the group and she was one of them.

A big UK touring package that Sonny & the group took part in ..... did he use his UK stage-name after returning to the US ?? ......

Ronald Bertram Aloysius Greaves was born on Nov. 28, 1943, at an Air Force base in Georgetown in what was then British Guyana. He was the nephew of Sam Cooke and was raised on a Seminole reservation in California. In 1963, he moved to England to perform and record as the frontman for Sonny Childe and the TNT's. One of the songs he recorded in the UK was a cover of Sam Cooke's "Ain't That Good News".

SOME INFO on Sonny Childe & the TNT's ..... Screaming Lors Sutch needed a new band after members of his old outfit had quit. He went to see Liverpool outfit Derry Wilkie & The Others in a South London Club. He got talking with members of the Others who in conjunction with ex members of the Four Saxes became the new Savages (SLS's backing band). The members of the Others worked for Screaming Lord Sutch for a considerable time, playing a lot of dates with him in England and Scotland. They were the set of Savages that recorded "One Eyed Flying Purple People Eater" - with Nicky Hopkins on piano - and played 6 concerts over a weekend in early 1966, starting at the Astoria Finsbury Park and promoted by Robert Stigwood, alongside The Who, The Fortunes and The Merseybeats. Sutch made Derry Wilkie (the Other's lead singer) dress up as a woman for one part of the act so he could chase him around the club with an axe. Derry did it as a good sport for a while but he didn't really enjoy having to but the pay was good and they all needed the money. Soon after the departure of Noel McManus, the Savages were approached by heavy-weight boxer Freddy Mac to form a larger "Soul" stage show which included American vocalists Cleo Sylvester (who previously worked with The Rolling Stones in '64) and Ronald Bertram Greaves aka "Sonny Childe". As a result, the whole band - Phil Kenzie, Derek Bond, Ernie Hayes and roadie Bazz Ward - apart from Billy Adamson ended up involved with this project and left Dave Sutch. The group called "This 'n' That" was in fact two groups which merged to form one large soul band with three singers and debuted at the Ram Jam Club in Brixton in April 1966. It was short lived and Derry Wilkie, who felt he was not getting the same attention as Sonny Childe, opted out. By mid '66, the group finally left Freddy Mac because they felt they could do better as a smaller unit. They became Sonny Childe and TNT and recorded for Polydor.

A ballad from Sonny Childe .....

A Sonnye Childe & the TNT UK recorded cut ....

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Bob,I don't have the full facts on his lead vocals on the Mad Dog & the Pups 45's BUT he did sing lead on some (Doubt it was all) of their tracks ...... he told me that the kids 'officially' in the group were selected to look just like another Jackson 5 type outfit; only none of them could sing !!!

The group were US servicemen based in the UK. Their main men were Danny Leake (from Chicago) & James Wells who went on to work with Ian Levine and then Leake worked back on the Chicago recording scene. Group landed a UK record deal (with EMI) in 1974 and had a LP & 45 out here (the 45 also escaped in Germany). Highly collectable of course (& reissued on other labels since 74).

Guess that Sensational Travelling Souls 45 on United could just as easily have escaped on Champ itself (Jim Stanton being involved). So are there anymore gospel 45's on United ??? Another obscure (& very rare) label to chase now then -- guess we need a full label listing with all the pop / rock acts identified, so that we don't risk buying the dodo (from our point of view) that exists on there.

Anyone know when the Minors "Lonely Boy" 45 (Champ 2004) dates from as the label was based in Johnson City (not Nashville) at the time.

............... I have or have seen numerous 45s on Champ and United not mentioned here ............... I think we are only interested in the soul & gospel releases here. It would be a help to list any such 45's on the label that aren't already detailed here. Not sure where stuff likethe Three Saints & the Prince of Darkness 45 sits as the B side is a cover of a James Brown song. ALSO ... loads of gospel artists who cut stuff at Jim's Champ Sound Studio went straight next door to 1707 where HSE Records were based & got a deal. At one stage (around the mid 70's) I believe there was a more formal tie-up between Jim & HSE.