Chalky

I beg to differ, no matter what anybody thinks of this record it is bloody great northern regardless of its soul quantity. It rams the dancefloor floor whenever it gets played and I doubt most of the dancers care about the price.

that's probably why it is the most forgotten oldie ever

If it was mine I'd get a cut done and have the guitar solo taken out. When was the second one on the bay? Still just the three known I take it then?

I thought it was the 5th...heard others have a copy...rumour/myth or truth who knows

Collecting British never really bothered me for some reason. Always looked at it as a collector of US Rare SOul so the US copy is what I wanted. Did have some of course, Jackie Burns & The Belles - I Do The Best I Can - UK MGM while it was still covered up by Guy, Esther Philips - Just Say Goodbye nice black issue that everytime I played out someone wanted to buy off me. PP Arnold silver issue which I paid 50 pence for. Must admit the UK white/red/green and white demos do look nice. Sound quality often better too to these lug oles when compared to US issue.

no way was this done for the scene, the Guy who had the masters had probably never heard of Northern Soul. He was probably just trying to make some money. I never hear this out so deffo yet to have its day and p*sses all over some of the second rate 70's I hear out.

These kind of rooms are often a side room for a reason, they appeal to a minority, sadly. The format would never work in a main room and you certainly wouldn't get the support at a large regular venue no matter how good the records are. The only way to change things is bit by bit, maybe promoters should insist on the dj's they book play 5 records that aren't the norm. Until then oldies rule at the majority of your larger venues be them soul nights or all nighters.

Its on Mas Tok and from 1965 scan from the bay.....

used to be an education watching those guys at the music factory doing their thing. Quality was great too. Not been down there since the days of the Dome.

BobA interviewed them (or members of the group), he may be of some help.

maybe, maybe not, but i opened the topic four times before my post to find each time a post that was nothing to do with the topic in question.

Last time.....lets get back on topic PLEASE!

a minority of two then

Freddie Starr

It was released on the flips (maybe the top side ) with Pretty Girl, Just A Boys Dream & What Good Am I. Years ago I had the Pretty Girl one and it was in my sales box for about two years, couldn't give it away....just shows how times and tastes change.

loads of versions, can see them HERE with release dates etc. See Otis Blackwell one of the co-writers. Quite a few black artist that are of interest to us in amongst the list. Second hand songs has some great info tucked away in the site.

Can't say I've heard Stormy played out, wouldn't say it's never been played but personally don't think there is any appeal for it. The flip of the one you've posted has had spins. As for a price for the lp, dunno!

I've used carvers for some stuff and always had to alter settings as really poor in comparison to an actual vinyl issue. As you say they are adequate but you guys do such a good job giving us some top quality unissued stuff why spoil it with a carver?

off topic and personal posts deleted. One or two others being looked at. Keep this on topic and knock the personal stuff on the head, no need for it and some of it uncalled for.

I do agree with Ady to a point with cds, why not play the unissued stuff from cd's? Getting them cut to a carver dulls the sound too much for me.....the acetates from Timmion are far better quality than the vinyl carvers but I can't see the point really spending 20 quid to play something which the cd is the original format?

one of my fave 70's tracks.... BARBARA STANT - MY MIND HOLDS ON TO YESTERDAY - SHIPTON 70820 -

Yeah I read that Russ, slight oversight, didn't help when I saw the track list o the Shiptown site which only shows him as the only credit? Anyone got a scan of the original release, the one that doesn't show fast on it. Seen it at Andy D's but can't remember the details.

I just asked for you all to leave out the personal stuff Anymore and will simply remove the posts.

Can you actually physically buy the cd of Shiptown and How Big vol 1 or is it just download only?

be interesting to find out just who did own the rights between Biggs passing away and he son regaining control. Was it Ida Sands or Charles Amos Hunter? I wonder if Charles Amos Hunter being the sole credit on the track did have the rights to do as he wished once Noah Biggs passed? from the history page of the Shiptown site (John Smith's words).... The label's activities were slowing anyway, but Noah Biggs death in 1978 signaled the end of the line for the organization. None of Frank Guida's roster was still enjoying hits, Wilson and Jerry Williams had moved on to progress their recording careers elsewhere and even Lenis Guess was ready to up sticks and head out to New York. The 'Norfolk Sound' had run its course. With Shiptown in disarray, Barbara took a break. She then teamed up with a jazz band and started to sing again for a few live shows locally. But things just weren't the same for her and so she went back to her roots in the church. Control of the recording studio and catalogue slipped away from the family and that could have been the end for Shiptown. But record collectors started to unearth the label's old 45's and those that found favour were soon commanding high prices. Howard Biggs moved on in life and pursued his own career path. 25 years on though, he discovered the unending interest in his father's record label. He managed to get control of the label back after realizing that it was something worth owning.