Everything posted by Modernsoulsucks
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Ebay Bootleggers 84 Items Now
I wasn't being serious. Think maybe zero tolerance or leave it to Paul and Ady to protect their rights. No point getting worked up about the odd seller. Nightwatch is like my baby. One of first things I conned sold to Richard along with Peter Jarrett at the same time. And people blame Russ!! ROD
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Jesse Fisher-Honey/fourcounts-Loveland
Im amazed no one has bought the Lyndell 45. One of the best 45s ever made! In my defence Im unemployed and broke and am anal retentive when it comes to Mint only. Why has it not sold? ROD
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Ebay Bootleggers 84 Items Now
Ged to use your analogy I think it's more why stop some burglars and allow others unlimited access. There's a link on here now that takes you to a site with dodgy looking re-issues. I think you've seen it. Before I get both barrels back bear in mind you're already in my bad books for slating Nightwatch. ROD
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The Shag
Here's the story behind that The Blenders only release on Jay-Dee, in August 1953, consisted of the final two sides that had been recorded for Joe Davis back in March: "You'll Never Be Mine Again" and "Don't Play Around With Love." At that same session, Davis had them record a raunchier version (entitled "Don't Fuck Around With Love"), which he planned to send to disc jockeys as an under-the-table release. After this side found its way onto a Kelway release in 1971, Davis himself released the song (on his Davis label) in 1973. ROD
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Maurice Williams Being With You Deesu
The orig should have scratched in 205-1726, then something that looks like "COS" [with a fancy "C"] scratched in, then a small stamp Nashville Matrix [least I think it's matrix: looks like Matria] and then 75 scratched in. Think Nashville Matrix is most important thing to have. There is a green look-alike and a kinda red/purple boot too ROD
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The Shag
Here's one of my faves but only because I used to get really good soul 45s for the album "Dart Attack" that this track appeared on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwe73cMLXE0 They all have this kinda beat. Futures "Party time man" and Drifters "Pour your little heart out" were big too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUH-aZEK-58 Poppy disco really. Although they also played a lot of jump R&B stuff too. ROD PS Here's a link to Beach Music radio. Click on "Listen" on right hand side. Give you an idea. https://www.beachshag.com/
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Pretenders
Of course it is. Im going mad. ROD
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Pretenders
Just looked at mine and it's 537 with a different [ballad] b-side. ROD
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Have We Gone Full Circle In Northernsoul?
"there are a lot of people who can not appreciate Northernsoul music properly" I just think everyone appreciates it differently. ROD
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Have We Gone Full Circle In Northernsoul?
I think Simon it's rather difficult to fathom where you are coming from. Whilst you don't appear to have much time for the oldies crowd you are posting on another thread and seemingly extolling the virtues of Helen Shapiro and Tom Jones but then it might be a joke. I can't personally tell. HS and TJ are my idea of "nightmare" records and probably Jocko's too so without being in on it it's hard to take some points you make at face value or seriously. ROD
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Have We Gone Full Circle In Northernsoul?
Im following this just so I can sit my grandchildren on my knee one day and tell them about the time when JT was the voice of reason and fairness between two warring parties. I don't know but Im wondering if there isn't some misunderstanding between Chorley and Cliff[is it?]. At first glance it does come across as if Cliff is supporting the idea of a wide range of styles of music getting played to attract a younger crowd.He mentions jazz,funk,latin. This is where Chorley's reference to warehouse scene comes in. However I did "google" Cliff's playlists the other day [altho can't find 'em now]. Think I noticed Purple Mundi and other stuff I knew alongside stuff I didn't. Whatever, it fitted in with Chorley's "ideal" which was a mix of oldies,underplayed and newies. Cliff wasn't departing at all from the non-oldies strand, albeit a leaning towards 70's upwards. I think. Maybe Cliff could post a playlist. The only observations I'd make is that if Cliff has a vision it's immaterial what the oldies crowd like so there's no need to denigrate them. And I fail to see how the "progressive" end of the scene has any more life in it than the oldies unless the age range of the goers is a lot less than that of the oldies fans. I take the point that it is abroad but at Lifeline etc? I also think JT hit the spot when he mentioned soul rather than scene fans. Contrary to popular belief a lot of the guys like myself who started on a predominantly 60's scene liked other forms of soul music so the introduction of a more contempory sound wasn't the massive leap it's sometimes portrayed. Yes there was some argie-bargie especially when the Mecca maybe went too far into jazz-funk or whatever but by end of Wigan there was a second wave of danceable 70's 45s with a Northern feel which were extremely popular [Pages,ZZ&Co] and whenever I've been to a ATB [mainly oldies] local do those sounds are well represented because that's what a lot of people associate with the end of Wigan,rather than Del-Tours and Topics. I guess the 70's sound being contemporary attracted a lot of younger people back then but I wouldn't have thought it was a factor now. Of course Im assuming there that Cliff's idea of progressive does feature a less 60's orientated style. Probably depends on where he is playing. ROD
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Have We Gone Full Circle In Northernsoul?
I was wondering when someone would bring up the overseas scene to contradict Chorleysoul's observation but it doesn't make his point invalid or less true. I get there's younger people abroad but I don't see how that reflects on the oldies scene here. IMO all it does is draw attention to the fact that it doesn't appear to be attracting young fans in the UK. Not that I'd really expect an influx into the oldies scene but where there are modern nights is this happening? Something like "Soul Essence"? If not you can't put it down to modes of dress or sticking with the same old Wigan format. More to do as Chorley says with choice of music available now and the age difference with the music being of a time and place. I don't think we should be constantly blaming the oldies crowd for any perceived ills as they've been here since M's opened and that didn't stop Stafford or Sam/Arthur doing their thing. In fact judging from amount of nights on it's going strong still although obviously somewhat fragmented in that it has to cater to a more diverse range of tastes. ROD
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Keb Darge - Scotlands Finest Export Since Whiskey
Some of them, but I guess question was what 45s do you associate with Keb. Bit surprised Hambric [both sides]gets a mention as if it's Drum 45 this was massive for Richard at Casino. CODs and Topics were Richard's 45s but I bought them off him as he was getting out of 60's really and hadn't played them much. Similarly Royal Robins which I think was off him but maybe Anderson. Can't remember now. Jackie Day was from US and I cut acetate for Guy. Limelights was a Dave Raistrick discovery Dave and I played at Stafford. Apart from Hambric we used to play all these at Stafford amongst others but I suppose it all gets mixed up in the memory. ROD
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Marsha Gee - Baby I Need You
Just looked at mine. I know hard to tell from image but 45Cellar's copy looks matt whilst mine is shiny label. Stamped matrix 45-67023-P1 with triangle couple of inches away. Differences on label:- BABY, I NEED YOU all on one line Hyphen between BMI and 2:34 shorter in length "A Wright-Hanson" all on one line. ROD
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60's And 70's For Sale
All 45s are original. Even those graded VG+ are in very good condition apart from odd scuffs or light marks and all are guaranteed money back if not satisfied. No scratches or f**ked records here. M- is my top grade and EX is not far off that. New titles added. 60's Northern 2.Cicero Blake Don't do this to me SUCCESS M- £8 3.Supremes A Breath Taking Guy MOTOWN EX £10 [real nice copy] 4.Chuck Bernard Every Hurt.../Funny Changes [2 good sides] SATELLITE £15 M- 5. Brothers of Soul You'd better believe it BOO EX £5 6. Gene Chandler There goes the lover BRUNSWICK EX £8 7.Dave Love Coalined Baby SOLID SOUL VG+ £8 8.Jades Ltd. Last Chance WDJ TOWER EX £10 9.Jackie Wilson Whispers BRUNSWICK M- £8 11.Dells There is CADET £5 M- [dh] 12.Doc&Interns Baby I know NOW EX £8 14.Johnny Moffet I found joy CANTEBURY M- £8 15.O'Jays Im so glad I found you BELL M- £10 16.Orlons I ain't coming back CAMEO EX £10 19.Chris Bartley Sweetest thing this ... WDJ VANDO M- £8 20.Royalettes Only when you're lonely MGM EX £8 21.Deon Jackson Love takes a long time.. WDJ CARLA VG+ [few surface marks]£8 31.Archie Bell My balloon's going up ATLANTIC EX £5 32.Ronnie Walker It's a good feeling WDJ ABC EX £15 70's Soul 40.Jean Carn If you wanna go back WDJ PIR [s/s] M- £5 41.B.W. Souls Marvins Groove [FUNK] ROUND EX £8 42.David Morris Jr. Midnight Lady BUDDAH EX £8 43.Caprells I believe in the stars BANO M- £10 44.Rare Pleasure Let me down easy CHERYL M- £25 45.Buddy Turner You're what's missing... OCEAN/ARIOLA M- £8 46.Bobby Cutchins I did it again LASSO M- £5 47.Myra Cormier Pleasant dreams ZZZ M- £12 48.C. Alexander Pay them no mind GUYJIM M- £5 49.Jones Girls Nights over Egypt WDJ [s/s] PIR M- £5 50.Edwin Starr There you go SOUL M- £5 51.Joe Tex All the heaven a man... DIAL EX £5 52.Little Dooley It's got to be now or never NORTH BAY M- £10 53.Five Keys Stop what you're doing LANDMARK EX £10 57.Cory Take it or leave it PHANTOM VG+ [one noticeable scuff] £10 58.Reggie Garner That ain't the way ABC EX £40 59.Rocky Roberts I won't think hard of you CHESS VG+ [couple of clicks on run-in groove] £5 60.Dutch Robinson Can't get along without you DJ [ss] U.A. M- £25 61.Ruffin & Kendrick I couldn't believe it DJ [ss] RCA £12 64.Today's People S.O.S LINDEE EX £5 ss= single sided/same song on both sides Please PM if interested. Payment by Paypal or cheque. Postage for 1 x 45 is £2 by recorded 1st class mail. All 45s sent out in new mailers well-packed. Thanks ROD
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Ronnie Walker
Sent you a PM today. ROD
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and The 'funkiest' Soul Record Of All Time Is?
And what's wrong with Hip-hop? Sounds funky to me. ROD
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Bobby Paris - Personally - Canadian Polydor
I've had a copy since 80's and I noticed a copy on Ebay maybe a year or two ago. ROD
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Diana Gordy
G-7039 is "Nowhere to run". Diana Gordy sounds like c/u [made up] name based on Ross and Berry obviously. Is this the "I'll come running" track by any chance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7R8M7mFfa8 ROD
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Soul Fan Or Scene Fan?
I've just had a thought! Thinking about Chorley's premise that punk started with a social/political ethos and then mine that perhaps it didn't live up to it entirely I wonder if we have gone the opposite way in that this scene started as a night-out for teenagers but because of it's longevity has now taken on certain values. I'd say anti-racism for one. Feel free to switch off entirely. ROD
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Soul Fan Or Scene Fan?
Bearing in mind the poor response from viewers to this meandering thread I've PM'd you re the delights of the MOD[PE]. The fascist reference was just a joke. "God save the Queen,and her fascist regime" of which Im sure the MOD would have been included and no I dont want to argue about it. ROD
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Soul Fan Or Scene Fan?
Im PMing you before the viewers tun off. Hope you don't mind ROD
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Soul Fan Or Scene Fan?
For f**k's sake, as it ever occured to you that your inability to take on board any other point of view other than your own may be the reason why people tire of listening and accuse the thread of going up it's own arse. Tedsoul's observation was perfectly valid and in the main I'd agree with that point. For every Joe Strummer there were "how many" who got the wrong end of the stick and were attracted because of the notoriety and the fashion and turned what may have started out as a socially and politically conscious movement into what looked from the outside at best as kids p*ssing about and at worst as a preserve for the deadbeat and an excuse to behave badly. As I've said numerous times it's great that you, and now Billy, got something positive out of the experience and by doing so took a different and no doubt much more successful path than you woulda done had you remained a football hooligan although at only 17 I wouldn't beat myself up about that particular phase. Male rites of passage etc. Personally Im quite happy with "faceless nobody" as long as I have my mates,family etc. I think that's one of the things wrong with today that many people wanna be a somebody and don't mind how they do it and hopefully we'd agree on the 18 reasons for that sad state of affairs. Very brave to come out on here as a one-time Labour activist especially as you bloody didn't do anything to save us from Thatcher [sorry Ted] nor Labour come to that. Hope it's not a cliche but they're all the bloody same. ROD
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Soul Fan Or Scene Fan?
I agree Ted and I did try to get out of any more discussion but he won't let it lie.
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Soul Fan Or Scene Fan?
I think you're nitpicking a bit there. In the 60's they were the Pop Charts. Pop is just short-hand for chart music to someone of my generation. What kinda music do you like in '68 would not elicit the response "I like that genre of popular music known as soul" would it? Im sure you knew what I was referring to by the term pop music. I guess the term has also taken on the connotation of something disposable and inconsequential which is how I view punk etc too and was trying to get across. Im glad you got something out of punk. That's great but only as long as it doesn't impinge on me which unfortunately that scene or it's adherents did as I mentioned. Not surprising I have no respect or admiration for it as a movement. I agree with you that without the scene some may give up on the music too. I guess those are the ones who are merely seeking the status Barry mentioned. However that involves having a pretty low opinion of some of our fellow fans. Don't think we should be going there. Unless of course they got into the scene and not the music which seems a bit rum. ROD