Baz Atkinson

NOT HARD BUT TRICKY THE EP ON THE NO LABEL CHEERS BAZ A

YEP Cliffs right -get to the media sections and enjoy the vast library of northern soul-seventies soul-gospel-latin,sweet and deep,R/B, Pure soul,Funk etc! I would say its aborad church so dip in as for scenes well -thought it was about the music? BAZ A

BEV AND DUAN PLAYS FINE REMEMBER THE USB NEEDLE IS MEGA FINE - GREAT BARGAIN AND SOMEONE GET BABY RAY IT IS A MONSTER IN THE MAKING. BAZ A

GHETTO KITTY SOLD

JIMMY ROBINS SOLD SOMEONES NOT DAFT!!! BAZ A

5 crackers -those who ordered and did not come back not welcome £2 postage paypal preffered. Beverly+Duan-you belong to me-/love-Brown Bomber[hard to grade not a vg but vg+ish plays fine,£50 £250 book price. withdrawn Ghetto Kitty-stand up and be counted -Stroud Mint but slight mark on vinyl plays awesome pristine record £40 SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD. Barrino Brothers-trapped in a love -invictus MINT- [WOULD BE MINT BUT LINE ON VINYL NAP plays awesome]£40 SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD. Baby Ray-dance my tears way-Capp city Mint [bit like my baby love track just waiting to go ]big spins reqiured £100 Jimmy Robins-repossessing my love-AA Mint- [big vibe on this folks exchanging money now at nighters]£25 SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD.

folks dont order then not get in touch-outstanding stuff contact me folks. BAZ A

gobsmacked the hartfield brothers is not sold wow -its near mint and whata flip,i BAZ A

DUKE TURNER SOLD

carol anderson on hold. BAZ A

5 quick ones £2 postage paypal preffered.check the soundclip out !!! DUKE TURNER-BABYSITTER-SPINNING TOP[VG]+ PLAYS FINE WHAT A TRACK FRACTION OF BOOK£20 SOLD SOLD SOLD. CONTRIBUTERS OF SOUL-CANT HELP BUT FALL IN LOVE-VENTURE WHITE DEMO MINT £25 TOP GROUP HARMONY TRACK CAROL ANDERSON-HOLDING ON-MID TOWN MINT- £20 YES 20QUID ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD. HARTFIELD BROTHERS-SWEET SOMEBODY-BOOLA BOOLA VG+ £50 YES ABOUT THIRD OF BOOK TONY TALENT -GOT TO TELL SOMEBODY-VANDO VG+ £20 AWESOME TRACK SLIGHT SMALL TEAR ON LOGO AND DRILL VERY STRONG VINYL .GOT A WHITE DEMO OF THIS STORMER. ALL TRACKS PLAY FINE WAS RUSHING THE USB LOL AS USUAL .

"In The Basement" is pretty good and covers a wide remit and the above mentioned "There's That Beat" is great as well. Publishing's not an easy business, so anyone who can put a decent magazine out regularly should be encouraged IMO...... Ian D Hello Ian "theres that beat "has gone up a notch since that young lad from the north east BAZ A has joined apparently Pulitzer has been mentiond !!! BAZ A

definetly Penn !! BAZ A

I think some very valid points have been mentioned here -one statement that really sticks for me is"nobody will ever get rich from northern soul"how so very wrong!!! Collectors are very savvy now but hence when alot of returnees came back the prices via lists and ebay were ludicrous a quick calculation of someone who had amassed tunes that would be categorised as big ticket items WOULD TELL YOU THAT MANY UK COLLECTORS OF RARE SOUL AT THAT TIME WERE SITING ON COLLECTIONS IN EXCESS OF 100.000 AT LEAST!! Hey presto out come cds for millionires only -what kind of elitist bollocks is that? Only millionares can afford these tunes? or many returnees who forked out and now realise that this as mentioned is a revolving scene based around trends and current tastes constantly evolving. The progressive punter now does want fresh stuff and thus gospel -funk-r/b / crossover etc all come into a massive melting pot build around likeminded people visiting the most musically challening venues? I really feel that magazines like Manifesto dont reflect that trend and that by not doing so have missed the point competely ie a northern scene always since the wheel days based on progression of the music etc. Some of the backscratching and arsekissing in some of the manifesto articles is a tad embarssing for any soul collector- i dont want pictures of people sitting [i want pictures of interesting soul records that i can track-listen to and buy].etc. The whole Levine issue is a biggie and controversial I held him in high esteem untill a visit about 4 years ago when with likeminded collectors from the north east visited to view his 100.000 records,got some nice pieces not northern and did feel slightly bullied ,he uses his vast sales experience to push stuff on us and we buy stuff way over the book because w could not shake hs aura -i do feel hes made his mark but that was so long ago now!! If punters and purists want an incedible informative read then buy theres that beat -brilliantly written,chokka full of updates re worldwide gigs,information on records to blow your mind and no whos who-just collectors that care and share a passion for rare and underplayed soul music.Perhaps as James mentions the the media of soul source and its power can propel the scene into a new century where the music moves on stands on it merit and is played indiscriminantly without a dj claiming it -the vast ownership issues that have plagued this scene since ad infinnitum have created the egos and the Baggage,lets move on and keep it fresh and if you want your nostalgia go to a northern soul do and get pissed on cheap beer. [oh and nowt wrong with that by the way ]just not mycup of tea. BAZ A

When i started the thead in refo-soul ,the whole idea was to showcase some of them perfect late sixties early seventies tunes that epitomised what John and Jock have discussed earlier.The thread to me now sums up other words ie JUST BLOODY GOOD SEVENTIES SOUL IE SOUL MUSIC CUT IN THE SEVENTIES WITH MORE ACCOMPLISHED BACKING ARRANGING,MUSICAL SCORE AND PRODUCTION. Soul music simply exploded in the seventies due to millions of reasons,mostly commercial so generally with that explosion came along a far more accomplished bunch of records examples could be the incredible stuff coming from Sigma Studios or Invictus or Muscle Shoals ,Henry Stone -etc etc,the list is endless!! To me alot of the producers learned from the sixties pitfalls and simply produced better records,with far more soulful delivery. Now that is not to say the sixties records did not have good arragement etc [more often that not most were produced on a pittance ,but still souded incredible]the appeal forgive me if im wrong for sixties stuff was the sheer rawness and expression of soul,in the seventies that expression was sightly more sophisticated and studio bosses had to drive up the value another notch. Somone metioned seventies records sounding like sixties records well there is literally hundreds so far on the thread a good expample been roe-ta-tion on gerim etc,I think a good record is a good record regardless of our obsession to categorise -simple terms would be sixties soul-seventies soul-eighties soul etc,far to simple for us anoraks lol. I really hope some who pass judgement on the seventies and other genres in the history of black american music ,visit some of the threads -take the gospel thread for instance theres a record on ebay at the mommet vastly sought after by the northern crowd and it is marketted as follows HOLY DISCIPLES 45 GOSPEL FUNK NORTHERN SOUL well bugger me why not call it the lot lol,the point been it is the genre obssessed British collecting public that have created the vacume and yes im as quilty as everyone else,the record in question is just a cracking soul record on a gospel based logo out of Texas [hundreds of incredible gospel records I would class as just good soul records-soul stirrerrs etc]/. Hope this amswers your question Bearsey [hope your well mate] oh and for the knockers of crossover soul ,sweet and deep,funk,and gospel,theres thoushands more to come on the threads at least another 5000 from my collection so why not dip in and have an open mind -if the site represents a fresher aspect of soul collecting and gathering and sharing infomation in the 21st century perhaps open minds could go with this? Right back tothe beach lol] BAZ A

ITS SOME LOGO PEACHTREE \AND YES SOME TOP CROSS FERTILISATION OF PRODUCERS ETC- FUSING SOME OF THAT ATLANTA FUNKIER STUFF WITH A BIT STAX INFLUENCED STUFF OUR OWN PAUL MOONEY IS THE MAN FOR THIS IM SURE HE MASTERED ATLANTA SOUL !!! BAZ A MY FAV OUT OF ALL THE STUFF IS EMORY AND THE DYNAMICS -LOVE THATS REAL -ITS A REAL DEEP BURNER !!!

its about 100 quid got mine years ago early nineties off Guy H -love johnnys gone away superb tune! BAZ A

GOT LOADS ALSO QUITE A FEW FOR NEW JERSEY ALSO IF YOUR PREPARED TO DRIVE ABOUT,STILL A GOOD PLACE IMO TO GET BITS AND PIECES,GIVE ME A BIT TIME TO DIG THEM OUT AND PM ME. BAZ A

At a guess Ken, he's probably thinking of "Your love was good for me" - lovely stuff!! Although this song came out quite a few times on both Federal and King.... your right John "your love is a bueatiful record imo" BAZ A

Hi Ady, Thanks for the scans and info That looks like it was pressed by the same place that did the All Platinum family labels. I don't remember where but it was probably in NJ or NY. Chuck Brown was the primary label owner. Frank Key I believe was an original investor but didn't have much involvement. The address on the label is Brown's bail bond business, it's across the street from the Cleveland jail. It was just a business office. Later the operation moved to Cleveland's Lee/Miles neighborhood, which was just for Saru business. I'll have to go thorugh my info about the Out Of Sights. I'm afraid that I'll confuse their story with the Elements. David Peoples who recorded for Saru was primarily a jazz singer, appearing for years with long time Cleveland bandleader Jimmy Landers. Michael Bell on Saru was a Cleveland teenager. I don't remember about Sir Stanley. In 1972 Brown deactived Saru and started Horoscope. After he hit with the Ponderosa Twins + 1, All Platinum took over the label and renamed it Astroscope, I'm sure because of some copyright issue. Contrary to what you can read on the internet, Astroscope was not a Cleveland label after it was renamed. The PT+1 45s just carried the Saru name as legacy. Brown then started a third label, Pisces. I only know of two records on this label, both by the Ba-Roz, a girl group lead by Cynthia Woodward. A quick abridged account of the Saru history (pronounced Say-Rew) - George I AGREE FANTASTIC STUFF -WHO WOULD NOTE THAT THE ADDRESS ON THE LOGO WAS A BAIL BOND BUSINESS,I KNOW THE OJAYS CUT SOME STUFF ON ASTROSCOPE GOT ONE SOMEWHERE,WHERE WAS ASTROSCOPE BASED GEORGE ? THANKS BAZ A

marvellous record flip is super also !!! BAZ A

It's rare, and fits into the category of " collection sticker" ( in other words, once they get into a collection they stick there) If you've not got one, can I suggest you buy the affordable & findable "My Woman's Love" by the same group to keep you going. It's subtle beauty should not be dismissed the way it often is (outside of Stafford era and X-Over fans) THATS A FINE RECOMMENDATION AS IS THE ELEMENTS AND THE OTHER OUT OF SIGHTS STUFF ON THE LOGO IE ITS GOT TO BE ME AND BABY YOUVE GOT IT. BAZ A PS THE FLIP OF MY WOMENS LOVE IS AWESOME IMO .

Spagetti got one of Tim Browns auction for £1000 a few months ago IS HE SKINT TED? BAZ A

Think alot care about it,wont get much change from bout £1500 to be honest if anyone is reading and want to let one go for a quick 1k im happy to do a quick deal,i need it to complete saru!!THE BOOK PRICE IS £1250 MANSHIP 5TH EDITION. BAZ A PS SOME LOGO IS SARU.

Thanks Baz, I got the Plus 4 in the end, I'm working on the theory they were someone else! The Smoke thing is a separate query to the GWP one. Cheers Ady [ NO PROBS MATE DID NOT KNOW HORACE OTT PRODUCED THE VILLAGE PEOPLE LOL,ITS AMAZING WHERE RESEARCH CAN LEAD SOMETIMES LOL. BAZ A