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Nice demo here in Ex condition. Pm me if interested - Al

Hi Bitch, Ive got this one in excellent con. I'll get back to later, im at work at mo. Happy to trade or sell or bit of both Al

Always remember when I got my Adorables 'Ooh Boy' back it the late 70's from Soul bowl (£7!!) , it had one of these stickers on. I prompty peeled it off and made such a hash of it I tore the label. Wot a I was! Good luck with yur search. Al

Hear Hear bud. Well im glad you like it. Me too, I think its a raw production of hearfelt harmony sung beautifully by 2 'UNKNOWN' singers who get my vote as well. For the record, I couldn't give a monkeys cuss about it value because im not one of those egotistical collectors who buys a slab of vinyl because of its value. If I like wots betwixt the grooves, thats all I care about. Once again, I applaud everyones contributuion to an enthralling debate and hope one day someone definitively comes up with the answer. ATB - Soul4ever Al

Well Paul, Ive got to say this has to be the most fascinating piece of research on SS for a long time. Are we really in a position to argue with Billy Butler, considering the people he has sung next too etc etc etc. I think I would trust his ears 100% or at least give him some respectful credit for making an honest assumption of who he thinks it is!! Nice one again Paul - Top man Al

WOW !!!! Hats off to you Paul!!

What a contradiction in terms P. S - I didn't mean 'anorak' to offend anyone so apologies if it was taken in the wrong context. I actually applaud yours and others knowledge on soul music. As I said, I was a little disaapointed we didn't get to a full conclusion. Al

You twit! LOL

All, Thanks for all your input on this 45 which has been very interesting and enjoyable. I cant believe that after all the 'toing' & 'throwing' there is no conclusion to such an amazing piece of deep soul IMHO (its only coz im disappointed really , and no its not because I hoped it was worth a small fortune for any synics amongst you!) I suppose it will have to go down as a defeat for the 'anoraks' on this occasion but I live in hope that the true identity of the artistes comes to light one day. Would be a real shame for this not to get some identity recognition rather than sadly end up on the soul death pile as 'unknown' Thankyou all once again for your input and your time. I live in hope. Al

Hi Tony/All, You've obviously got a very educated ear so, as you seem to recognise who it isn't, who do you think it mite possibly be? Im enjoying the debate but in all seriosness the voices IMO are wondefully soulful and cant believe no one has come up with an answer, especially as everyone seems to be so knowledgeable about this particular deep soul field. I dont deny that I havn't got a clue, hence the thread, but I was rather hoping someone would put a name or both to this cover.? ATB - Al

Well Ashford & Simpson would certainly fit the bill. Does anyone else think it sound like them? If so, do we think it predates the other versions or do we think it is after? Any thoughts anyone? Al

On its way Paul with a scan of the label!!! Good luck mate.

Used to be 3% selleing fee but eBay son grew wise to the fact that 45's make a lot of money so I guess they decided to have a piece of the action!!

If it didn't reach the reserve, all it would cost you is the listing fee for the item. Maybe a fiver on something this expensive. If it did reach or go past the reserve, eBay would take 9%, so on £6000 it would be £560. If the buyer paid by Paypal, you would pay approx 2.4% of the £6000 which is about £150. In essence, on an item you sell for £6000, you would receive about £5300. Hope this helps - Alan

Andy thats a wonderful donation. Can you sponsor me through the link Ive posted above so it goes directly to the trust. Thankyou soooooooooooooo much, really appreciated. Al

Apologies in advance to the moderators for this post but I am trying to raise money for cancer sufferers through the Marie Curie Trust Hi Soul Brothers & Sisters. I am looking for sponsors for my 5km Swimathon (April 16th 2010) in aid of The Marie Curie Cancer Trust. I have posted a link to my home page on the official Marie Curie Swimathon site https://my.artezglobal.com/personalPage.aspx?SID=281355 I know times are hard but if you could spare a little for this cause it would be greatly appreciated. This is a genuine post from a genuine soul brother. I know I may not know you personally but im sure ive seen a few of you at allnighters in the past. My homepage shows you a picture of me so I might be familiar to you. Thanks to you all in advance Alan - KTF

Nice one Paul! Good Luck ATB- Al

Really!!????????????????? Alan

Hi Sean, I would think if its some dude with a voice like that, (a) He would have many songs to his credit & ( he would certainly be recognisable as someone we all know perhaps!? Also, we are forgetting that the female vocal on the track is equally outstanding and again surely she would be recognisable. I dont dispute arguments that it may not be THE 'Billy Butler' but why would you bother to have this privately pressed if it had already been released previously by 2/3 other artistes? This is why I think it predates the other copies perhaps and not to mention that the running time on this copy is 3 minutes 20 seconds which is longer than the other versions. I still feel that if it was a 'raw' copy, any cover would be reduced in length for the commercial Radio Stations and maybe even a title change to prevent breach of copyright perhaps? Thanks for your imput on this thread by the way, it is very appreciated. Alan

Hi Ian, Thanks for that mate. It is very interesting but who is the female vocal!!!??????

Wow, this is really interesting. Love both these versions. My next question is, what date were the above issued (1966 &?) and do you think the 'Billy Butler' version predates these. If so, do you think this is the first version and have you ever seen this label before. Its also odd that both the above have the same writer credit too. The deadwax is etched with 10281 a & 10281 b I wonder why the titles of the above tracks changed from 'I Need You'? Thankyou so much for this wonderful info! More please Alan

I can see what you mean about it being a Rite press but was that not Philly based? and if it was Billy Butler, I fancied he would have access to some of the local pressing plants in the South of Chicago hence no particular label unless of course it actually is 'BILLY BUTLER' records (if you get my drift). Dont you just love all this supposition!!??? Cheers Al

Hi Boba, It definitely sounds like him. The female vocalist is awesome too! The B side 'I Love You' is totally different and basically 'easy listening' which is odd. I can send you an MP3 of that side too if it helps. The A side is absolutely sensational IMHO and grows the more you play it. Let me know what you think when uve heard it! Thanks for your reply - Al

All, I have posted the following track (MP3 & label JPG) in the vain hope that someone can enlighten me about this 45. This record is not listed anywhere that I can find, it is on a label with no company name and is on vinyl. The B side is 'I Love You' This is my hunch, I think this maybe an 'incomplete' work by Billy Butler who has had this 45 pressed somewhere in Chicago with the purpose of trying to perhaps 'sell' this vibe to another recording company. Enter Otis Leaville who has a record by the same title (A & B side) on Dakar but, with similar but different lyrics and tune. Was it something that Anderson had made for the Belgium market? What year was it made? I dont know, but suffice to say if anyone can help me solve this conundrum, I would really appreciate it. I would love to know who the female vocal is singing with him or indeed is Billy Butler!!!??? Questions, questions, questions!!?? thanks in advance - Al Billy Butler - I Need You

What a top 45! Came out 3 times I believe in the UK on Bread (1971), Trojan (1972) & Horse. Each time it flopped. Quite a rarity i'd say. Aint seen one for yonks. Good luck finding a copy. Al