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The point I made earlier Jocko in a way - get the 45 buying public (be they young or old) interested in buying the legal re-issues and un-issued material that people like Dave Welding et al are putting out. Much better to see people buying an Outta-Site 45 than a blank crappy press off eBay. Let's at least try, as you say, to engage the 45 buying public to go down the legitimate route rather than the illegitimate one.

I would have thought the finding of a 50 count box or more affects the price of originals (in the short term or longer in some cases) and not the fact it get's booted. Well not these days - am sure it happened during the 70s.. Back to the question in hand (again) the people who do the illegal bootlegging are surely well known? Or is the fact that these days you have legal outlets such as , oh, say Ebay, who are happy to have illegal product flooded on their pages. The fact is they don't care about silly little records that earn them god knows how much in commissions. If I provided an outlet for people to sell counterfeit handbags, jeans.. oh hang on that would be an well known auction site... If the outlet is there to sell this stuff then 'whoever' it is, and I'm sure there are quite a few! will continue to sell it.

I asked a question some years ago on this Steve and no names were mentioned (i think!) but there were intimations of who was responsible. There was that guy a year or so ago who got convicted? Of course there are legalities involved if we do name said individuals. Perhaps Ady C, Tony et al have or had an idea about illegal activities on some of their product being illegally issued which of course does fine companies such as Kent no good whatsoever.

Oh no! Another O.V.O debate coming! Legal legitimate reissues are absolutely fine. Yes some will play them out but I would have thought we'd know which venues etc does this. Some or quite a lot of folk just don't care. The music should always come first. I buy a handful of re-issues just to have at home - I can't afford Ernest Baker but am happy to stick the grapevine 45 on the decks at home. Hasn't destroyed the price of the EB 45 has it? But in my personal honest opinion I wouldn't want to hear the grapevine 45 played out. But some won't care. That's their choice. My gripe is the illegal bootlegs / carvers whatever being sold on ebay/venues etc etc. Purely a money making illegal activity but then it has been a part of the rare soul scene since its inception! And by 'revered' individuals no doubt over the years. Every other month there's a O.V.O / keeping the scene alive with youngsters debate. In the 21st century this will involve re-issue product like it or not - not all of us were around to buy future northern classics for a few quid at the Wigan record bar. Hard to stop the bootlegging so let's at the very least not ostracise people for buying legitimate re-issue product and enjoying the music.

Evening all! Just the one and a lovely piece of 70s group soul. Flip is a nice social-conscience cut. Condition NM / Unplayed. Chi-Lites - Livin In The Footsteps Of Another Man / We Need Order Brunswick £6 £1.50 UK Post / £3.50 Europe / £6 R.O.W Paypal as gift appreciated to soulful45s@gmail.com Happy new year folks Rich https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy1vOJXVppQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF2m9YPHvKo

I can't remember now to be honest - Remember Buddy Aces' 'True Love Money Can't Buy' being spun when I first went and loved it from that moment on. Remember seeing a copy of george pepp there for sale and swooning. Pretty sure there's a few guys on here who dj'd there..

Come to think of it could be there I heard it too. Good nights those. Question to Boba.. Did Williams ever have copies?

E Williams. Love that 45. First heard it by Roger Banks back in early 90s? Seem to remember hearing it furst by RB at one of the Gt Yarmouth weekenders. Think there's a copy in Germany from what I recall from discussion on here also but I don't think there's too many about. One on popsike from a couple years ago went for about 2k? Could be more now??

LOVE that S.J.Q 45.. A real 'go to' artist for me. Great choices and styles Swifty. That's what it's all about! Rich

New one to me just through this morning - Slightly left of centre this one - Norman Feels 'Today' on Just Sunshine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPSORlKMpHk

What a group Peter.. and a superb classy soulful tune too. Their ABC years yielded so many great cuts. Super stuff!

What a great clutch of 45s Mal. Love that Loretta Kendrick track. Beautiful. Glad you got Cressa ok Rich

Thanks Kev - Your feedback is much appreciated! Always pick up the Cat / Glades etc family of labels when I see 'em. JP Robinson also covered 'What Can I Tell Her' - it was nagging at me also! I think there are more versions?? Rich

A double helping of southern state soul to hit the mat this week - Raw Soul Express / Timmy Thomas (Upgrade copy) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9oGzKQfXPA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km3q3UuLTqk

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One from a lady who doesn't get much attention - bit of late night listening. Who's who on production/writing credits. Richard Evans, Gene Barge, Marvin Yancy & Charles Jackson! Cheap as chips and so very soulful. Natalie Cole ' Just Can't Stay Away' Capitol

Absolutely spot on! I honestly can't agree more with what Kev is saying. There's 45s there which are obviously exciting you and not others - keep to your principles and evolve!

I was under the impression Connoisseur was legit Chalky? And no it isn't right to encourage the purchasing of bootlegs (which I never do and never have done on this forum) but if I'm wrong on the legality of said label then I withdraw my previous post!!

Of course - and what a fine collection it is. Was looking at it from a 45 viewpoint only.

https://www.discogs.com/Freddy-Jaye-Sam-Cox-Thinking-Of-You-Destination/release/2988370 There you go! Even one for sale too. Never seen a full listing to be honest - The Pat Lewis rings a bell though. Cheers, Rich

Morning all. Just a quick handful of re-issues etc of some great and soulful northern. All at least EX condition unless stated - No quibble refund if unhappy. PayPal as gift please or add 4% (your choice) to soulful45s@gmail.com P&P - £2.00 UK Any amount of 45s. Europe - £4.50 Any amount of 45s. Worldwide - £5.50 Any amount of 45s Orders over £35 Overseas must go registered. Europe £8 / ROW £10 PM to reserve and thanks for looking! 1. Carstairs / Benny Troy - Really Hurts Me Girl / Wanna Give You Tomorrow (Stardust) £10 (2 of the biggest 70s northern dancers back to back) 2. Timmie Williams / Magnetics - Competition / I Have A Girl (Virtual) £10 (MUCHO dinero on these 2 as originals...Monster sides!) SOLD 3. Jerry Jackson - Wide Awake In A Dream (Conniosseur) £8 (Beauty of a beat ballad) 4. Ernestine Anderson - Keep An Eye On Love (Stardust) £8 (Mod/club soul classic.) 5. Empires / De-Lites - Your On Top Girl / Lover (Goldmine Sevens) £5 (Again 2 monster group northern classics!) 6. Hytones - You Don't Even Know My Name (Blank label with stamped details) £5 (Perhaps my favourite northern group cut. Insanely brilliant) 7. Ruby Sherry - Feminine Ingenuity (Sweet Soul) £5 (Atmospheric femme northern class all the way) SOLD

'For home play only' (!) - 'Destination' is on Kents Renfro Story!!!

Good day all! Welcome to September’s list — As per usual all details below and again a nice little list of soulful 45s at decent prices. Any problems just let me know. All at least EX condition unless stated - No quibble refund if unhappy. PayPal as gift please or add 4% (your choice) to soulful45s@gmail.com P&P - £2.00 UK Any amount of 45s. Europe - £4.50 Any amount of 45s. Worldwide - £5.50 Any amount of 45s Orders over £35 Overseas must go registered. Europe £8 / ROW £10 PM to reserve and thanks for looking! Sound clips are from You Tube etc. (Cheap!) 45 of the list Controllers — People Want Music / Feeling A Feeling (Juana 3406) £3.50 (Just two of so many great sides they cut on Juana. Topside is a great feel good dancer with cool keys n guitar work. Flip is one of those mid 70s sunshine state feel good mid tempo cuts that have you singing along! Well it does me!) Listen Dionne Warwick — Deja Vu (Arista) £3 (Isaac Hayes has a hand in on this nice mellow soulful stepper from Dionne) Listen Sylvester — Here Is My Love (Fantasy/Honey) £3 (Harvey Fuqua produced mellow soulful stepper with Jeannie Tracey on vocals. Nice!) Listen Cresa Watson — Dead (Charay) VG++ £10 (Depressing but wonderful? Version) Listen SOLD The Fabulistics — Ooh —This is Love / Nothing But Determination (Great Potential) £60 (Great sweet soul rarity backed with furious dancer that’s found favours among many. Some label discoloration and a few surface marks etc. Am grading as VG+ but I’ve been sold 45s like this described as EX! Nice price on this.) Listen Listen SOLD Willie Walker — A Lucky Loser / Warm To Cool To Cold (Checker) VG+ £8 (R&B dancer topside but head for the flip for a great piece of deep soul from Willie that just builds and rips him a new larynx!) Listen Listen Lorraine Scott — Crying For Love (Slak Promo — Canadian) W/pic Sleeve £12 (Nice pretty obscure stepper from 87. Comes with pic sleeve.) Listen Ruby Andrews — Whatever It Takes To Please You (Zodiac) £3 (Sassy hollerin’ chicken struttin’ funky soul cut from Ruby. Nice!) Listen Blendtones — Come On Baby / The Slide (Success) £8 (Two fab mod/R&B biggies from back in the day.) Listen Listen Larry Saunders — Where Did Peace Go / Story Of My Love (Sound Of Soul) £15 SOLD (Immense 45.. Peace is a classic of the war/protest genre..Real thinking mans soul with a true message. ‘Story’ is a frantic funky guitar led shimmering organ stabbing dancer. GREAT 45.) Listen Listen Mill Edwards — I Found Myself (Cutlass) £6 (Atmospheric lovely mid tempo cut that builds nicely) Listen Bobby Rush — Gotta Have Money (ABC) VG+ £20 SOLD (Brilliant R&B/Northern dancer — really tears along with great horns and Bobby rasping his way through it. Really rate this! Just some surface marks very light scratches stop this from being graded higher. Gold deletion spot.) Listen Razzy — I Hate Hate (MGM) VG+ £12 (Crossover tune that’s found many a fan. Great happy sing a long tune!) Listen Gene Redding — Once A Fool / Blood Brothers (Capitol/Haven) £4 (Classy soulful cut from Gene with full orchestra backing. Flip is a funkier born in the ghetto story cut. 2 nice sides) Listen Listen Brook Benton — Soft / Glow Love (Olde World) £3 (Soft is a wonderful atmospheric mid pacer aptly described by its title. Flip ups the tempo just a little — finger clicking soul) Listen Listen Lee Fields — You Been Cuttin Out On Me / I Don’t Have To Worry (Norfolk Sound) £12 (Funk A Side from the legend that is Lee. Flip is a nice deep cut) Listen Listen The Tymes — It’s Cool (RCA) VG+ £4 (Wonderful finger clicking mid tempo cut. Very soulful. Great vocals. Love this.) Listen Latimore — Dig A Little Deeper / Let Me Go (Glades) £3 (Southern class all the way on ‘Dig’ ..So very soulful southern sides. Flip is a wonderful down home cut with Latimore in fine voice. Really classy production. Southern soul essential!) Listen Listen Confidentials — Does He really love You (Masterpiece) VG+ £25 (Like most pressings of this — it’s lo-fi recorded in a tin bathroom! Just adds to its charm in my book. Quite sought after piece of ghetto flute led sweet soul. Listen Willie Brown — Love That Stranger (Tri It) VG+ £25 (Lovely crossover side from Willie. A few surface marks / scratches (nothing feelable) Listen SOLD

Men - Bobby Womack, Sam Dees, Wilson Pickett Women - Aretha Franklin, Gladys Knight & Millie Jackson Marooned on a desert island i'd be as happy as a pig in sh**!