Pete Eccles

Re-activated oldie

Can just picture you Steve that would be priceless!

Agree Ian, a town centre pub where i live is packed every weekend playing motown/northern/club soul, only ever called in a couple of times and thought it was great and a pleasant change from the usual town center dross, But paying £5+ to get in a venue that its promoters and its regulars want to be considered as a 'serious' soul event, where DJs are trying to climb the ladder of credibility by playing obvious 'boots' of current bigger ticket tunes doesn't quite sit as comfortably with me, But as said before, not the be all and end all, just don't go,

Jack, are you saying a 45 will triple in price or more from VG+ to a M- ? don't know the value of this 45 so not disputing your estimate, just seems a big jmp from VG+ to M- Pete

If a DJ is faced with the dilemma, shall i play this £10 floor clearer or this pressing of a floor filler, WTF are they doing up there in the first place? whatever the type of event if they can't pull up 20 odd floor friendly legit tunes, then why bother in the first place?

Apologies if i came accross as meaning ALL accross the board events adopt this boot policy, far from it

Don't know the event in question, but a couple of points, Though these events predominantly play the tried and tested, they still play stuff that was a couple of years earlier being broke at the more upfront/nighter scene, usually when its been booted/carved, IMO these 'tunes' help keep even the most oldies orientated events a little fresh and help stop even the keenest oldies 'soulie' getting bored, even if they don't really know it, If then EVERYBODY went down this road and decided the best option is to open events whereby 'mates' with records will play top 500/current top 20, and adopted the attitude 'its what comes through the speakers that counts' how long before,A theres no current top 20? and B everybody is bored shitless? Also at even accross the board soul nights its always nice to hear something new (although this isn't a must for me but nice if i do) is it not a case of a tune having to reach a certain popularity to warrant being booted? Which then means a DJ playing mainly 'boots' you can rest assured you aint gonna hear anything remotely fresh, just a DJ waiting for some other mug to 'break' the next 'biggie' get the boot and play it to a probably bigger audience and genuinly think its clever, Unfortunately, i doubt theres a solution,

Lenny, Whats a more realistic price for this then? OOPS, its missed the Timi Yuro of original post LOL

Chalky, in an earlier post i mentioned the promoters should take some of the blame, for keep booking em, as for 'comfort zone' i meant regarding re bookings ie doing a venue so often or resident they kinda know they are 'safe', as for 'comfort zone' regarding how adventurous their sets are is another issue is it not? thread topic being 'repeats' Regards

As already said, if DJs that repeatedly show a disregard for what has gone earlier (either by late arrival or simple ignorance) got less bookings, and taken out of their apparent comfort zone, then a little more effort may take place, IMHO

The initial suggestion is a comlete non starter, as for writing tracks down, asking DJs to write down their plays for later DJs who can't be bothered to get their early enough to listen (apart from those busy in other rooms) and what about the later DJs? Having to read through many 'lists' some probably barely legible, in very often poor lighting, then having to write their own plays down, whilst dealing with requestees, don't think so somehow,

All this would do in effect is remove a DJs identity and ability to think on his feet at what is required at any given moment, and unless we expect all the paying public to learn the year of release of their fave tunes, then it would mean the end of 'requests' , and constantly saying 'i can't play that even though its not yet been played' Agree wih Steve, a little effort from a DJ should help, although mistakes will always happen, especially at multi room events, (where a dj may have left the room for a while, maybe to visit record bar etc) or if he/she smokes Shouldn't always lay the blame at the feet of the DJ, well not totally, if a promoter (who must be keeping his/her eye on his/her event plus recieving plenty feedback) is happy booking DJs that obviously don't show much regard for what has gone before, then surely they should take some blame, Pete

She has been in my playbox then!!!!!! Minx!!!! NATALIE GET HERE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice trickery, and a very serious case of wishful thinkin

Unless our Natalie has been in my playbox for the originals to copy

very rich,

Careful Paul, my daughter is called Natalie, and as we are from Bolton we don't want peeps adding 2+2 do we? Can't think who it may be if your right though,

Now why couldn't i have put it like that earlier? perfect

All i am saying is it seems many more aren't!!!!!! Just an observation, not really an opinion on which to agree or disagree, ATB

Just spoke to Mr Grice (DJ) and he says its definitely not him, PMSL

Don't wanna get into the very boring oldies v newies debate as i don't really fall into either camp, But with all due respect are you really trying to tell me the events that you say flourish pull the numbers that the likes of Brighouse, stoke, and Blackburn KGH pull? Apologies if ive missed your point re - bigger and flourish, As i said i'm not a 'preacher' for either side of the fence, each to their own,

Mike, just to add, i get my 'fix' from almost anywhere and everywhere thats soulful, couldn't be doing the same type of event week in week out, whatever the policy, last night quite straight forward, next week who knows? wherever the mood takes i suppose, Hopefully see you around real soon,

Its so simple though, a group of peeps congregate in a building and thouroughly enjoy what goes on there, and other peeps enjoying whatever they enjoy really doesn't concern them, why should it concern anybody else why they enjoy what they do? What i don't get is what are they doing that's so wrong, they ENJOY it, end of,

Ive played Kingsway a few times, and enjoyed every time, and Mr Piper has NEVER told me what i should or shouldn't play! All it does is deliver what it says on the tin, which on reading events and lookbacks on here is a rarity in itself, the promoters and the good numbers that attend obviously enjoy whats on the menu, and are quite happy for those that find it 'fookin borin' to stay away, Stating that folk shouldn't enjoy what they obviously do enjoy and saying they should move on when they are very happy where they are is just as bad as telling a DJ what he should play,

Hello Mike, Good to meet you last night, and a very enjoyable night it was I think, for what its worth, that some events are far more 'dance floor driven' than others, some events to lose half the floor for a track or two isn't such a bad thing, others such as Kingsway where the emphasis is on entertainment rather than education to lose the 'floor' can be very scarey, Like you say, different promoters/events expect different things from the night, and any DJ deciding he/she knows better than the promoter or the paying customers of any particular event is running the risk of losing any future bookings, in the case of Kingsway finishing their spot