Ringleader

Well if this is Chuck Jackson he is sounding a bit rough!!

Final price was £2380 :o Ian

I was told this by Simon Sousan's UK conterpart. At the time, US motown could not find the master tape of the original single mix. There is more to the story but it is difficult to tell without potentially incriminating people. Motown UK and US. were always fully aware of the Eddie Foster bootleg.

Even though I agree with everything Paul Mooney has said, I think it is a very romantic notion to think that the artists of legitimate reissues of rare soul actually earn much money from them. The owners of the master tapes are likely to receive some sort of advance but because this is relatively small due to the low number of sales, there is not much left to pass on to the artist. Also I would guess that unless the owners of the original masters have retained all the artists contracts there is very little chance of knowing if they are entitled to anything. I have been producing records for 23 years and continue to licence tracks all over the world. The most common comment from artists when they see something they recorded 20 odd years ago appears on a new compilation in somewhere like Spain is "where is my money?" The artist usually forgets that they received a significant advance against sales 20 odd years ago and the recording has yet to go into propfit so they are entitled to nothing till it does. Also the company in Spain probably only paid $150 for the use of the track and sometimes paid nothing at all. Often my stuff is used without permission. Whilst lots of companies behave honourably, there is often no way of them knowing if when they release a track whether or not all the people down the line are being paid their due and are honouring all the contracts relating to that recording. With the advent of CDs most major recording acts from the previous decades negotiated profitable deals to give the record companies permission to put the stuff out on cd. Their original contracts did not mention "CD" so the lables needed to re-negotiate so they could reissue the back catalogue. I doubt if many obscure US soul acts gave anybody permission to put their old recordings on cd. The legal ownership and entitlements of old recordings is not always clear and the reason people get away with bootlegging is because the legitimate owners of the material have to spend a lot of money pursuing individuals at great cost for very little return. Having said all this I still agree with Paul that wherever possible everyone who is entitled to a share of a recordings profit should get it, regardless of whether it is £500 or 50p. Ian BTW When Motown UK wanted to reissue "Do I love you" in the late 70s they could not locate the original master tape so the dubbed it from the Eddie Foster bootleg.

who am i - johnny nash - cadet

fight for your girl - king williams - mgm nice flip too!

river of salt - ketty lester - era underarted!

Have a listen to Mamie Galore and Dee Irwin - All I want for Christmas - Imperial I have just posted this in the 'Midtempo Monday' Ian

All I want for Christmas - mamie galore and dee irwin - imperial 12401 refosoul A nice festive tune

It was Lise Miller.....Loneliest Christmas Tree - Canterbury

I know what you mean....especially the "pub piano" break

Get a hold of yourself - byrdie green - 20th cent. 12298 refosoul yet another version!

get a hold of yourself (alternative version) - little rose little - blue rock 12297 refosoul slower version

I love this!!

One of my all time favourites!, on styrene or vinyl........mine is mint styrene but i will resist posting it

One went for £247 on John Manship's auction a while back

I asked the same question on the other 'Don Gardner' thread the answer is £8687

thanks for that

Anyone know what the final price was on JM?

Paul Anka - No Reason Why - RCAPaul_Anka_2.mp3

Thanks.....that was fantastic....I was going to say "Tainted Love" at Wigan.......what about "we've got togetherness" at Wigan.

I need your help baby - johnny and jake - philips 11454 refosoul

When we're together - marvin gaye and kim weston - tamla 11424 refosoul

Thanks And thanks

Great Patti Jo track. Was it a single?, I have it on the Scepter "Disco" Album. Melba Moore did a nice version too.