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Fecking Hell mate - bit strong that innit?

Bazza, that statement makes no sense at all - At all! By your view, it seems to me that the person that fits your 'numpty' term, would be one that knows a great deal about Northern Soul and also one that, given a blank cheque book (a cd player that is - same thing), has the knowledge to fill a floor with his choices. It seems I see myself of the 'Numpty' School. As, by your own admission, 'Non-Numpty's must just have loads of spare cash and lttle else. Your views?

I have had the old, 'What was that ........... (whatever) remix you played with the disco beat behind it?' question aimed at me so many times that I feel the need to address it. It tends to be asked in an 'I'm not really that arsed and as a matter of fact I feel the (odd) need to intone my question in such manner that it sounds that I am asking out of abhorrence, almost repulsion' kind of way. Which never cuts it, I always know that the reason they are asking is simply because they like it, no matter how they phrase their query. What this this type of person doesn't tend to realise is the toil that was behind this remix/re-edit/re-working. And not only the toil. How much did that particular track mean to someone - to actually have it buzz round their head for years to the point where they wished to spend their hard-earned notes and precious time, in a studio to (hopefully) sympathetically give their spin on it. As much as you may wish to say 'Why bother? You can't improve on the original' etc - that isn't really the issue - it is simply one man's love of a track - a love that will make him try his damdest to improve on it....all the time knowing that he won't. Long story short - spend seven days in a studio re-working a track, re-building chords, adding hand claps, trying to re-work a bass-line etc...that is loving a record, nothing else. If nothing else the time spent remixing a track simply shows your respect for the original team behind it, and on the back of that - your love of it. Not something to have a pop at in my book.

I'll give you my view, I've only scanned this thread as it goes but anyway: One thing that needs to be addressed here is the fact that DJ's are solely there to keep a floor full, put people through the doors and the like. I am not a fan of that 'hot-box' shit, one out as it is not in vogue and one in, cos it is...and all that malarky. But at the end of the day you simply have to refer to the fact that dj's are there to do a job. Now, I'm quite sure that anyone who attains the stature to be a regular circuit DJ, no matter what he does whence playing a set at an all nighter, when at home has all the credentials that allow him that mantle. The dancefloor, the punters, the scene itself has dictated the need for a 'hot-box' - not the DJ - so having a pop at this state of affairs should go no further than yourself. For me, collectors (in the true sense of the word, and not just us that buy records), tend not to have been dancers - and dancers are all. Not that I am knocking your run of the mill anally retentive vinyl storer (See: 'collector')....but it's kinda like writing porn when you haven't lost your cherry - know what I mean? Real DJ's were punters and dancers at one time but Collectors simply rue the fact that were neither.

That was Al Kent's high point, a blinder of a tribute that lit dancefloors up at the time - why? Because his interpretation did to the kid today, exactly what it did to the kid of yesterday. Al didn't lose the 'high on hope' core of JJ's original. It just hit's the spot, as did the original - that piano hook is a killer, and Tyrone Taylor's vocal did it justice. Big up Al.

Cool

....what's it like? Now I'm not saying this is a wrong thing, nor any less enjoyable than what anyone else does with the time they give up to music....it can't be as it is all, after all, subjective. But at what point does it cut off for you sixties lads? (Or seventies, or mod, or ska...whatever) I find it hard to comprehend that, as I find, most of the people that are die hard-whatevers, always seem to have a seceondary leaning - be it punk or whatever, something that is a million miles away from their 'polished boot' credentials on here - and that seems to be accepted...strangely. Why is this odd juxtaposition deemed okay? Eg - Malcolm Owen & The Ruts (tick), The Pages (shite)...get me?

The problem that 'House' has within the Northern Soul (All-Nighter) fraternity is that it's emergance kind of corresponded with the low point of the Nighter scene. As Wigan closed it's doors, Rotherham, Leicester, Hinckley etc and the like carried the torch, playing later more cutting edge, funkier, jazzier/Modern releases....then the attendances and the hullabaloo tailed off - as black America opened it's production-mind to new technology. This technology (sound) appealed to a younger audience at that time, and I suppose to an older crowd it seemed that the song and the vocal took a back seat to the production values. US 'House' got played alongside more appealing, to a younger audience anyhow, European tracks built more around the feeling than the Soul. The positioning of the 'House' explosion within what was happening on the Nighter scene precluded it from the Soul scene, nothing else. The continuity of the Nighter scene was interrupted at that time - and House music was seen as something new by that scene, when it never was - it was just yesterdays Willi J & Co in played in that times format, yet sadly ignored. Note my use of the term 'the Nighter scene', which had/has little to do with the true appreciation of soul music. 60's isn't deemed a dirty word, nor 70's, nor cross-over, Modern - whatever. How so the useage of the term 'House', is? Sensible answers that utilise more than two sentences only please. (I'm just saving you volatile feckers from looking like a tit there - see - I do have a caring side.)

Post 67 Mark. Mark that down as one of your best.

A pointless response Ian. It seems to me that your inbuilt passion still causes you to bite occasionally. To who and for what reason mate? There are no-marks that have a pop on here, it don't mean jack to me. I don't agree with your musical views/productions in totality but what I do have the sense to grasp is the fact that your mind has worked possibly four or five music-based lifetimes, compared to the sheep with little back-up that take the easy route and have the occassional dig on here. Up yer arse second raters! You will never do for this music what the object of your jealousies has done. Which makes me laugh when you try to make sense of your mis-directed vollies. Boom Boom

To understand is a beautiful thing - it costs less and brings more. Say what you want. I understand...and it is so much more fulfilling, as you rely on no other than yourself. A total, impregnable security.

Anyone? There is a whopping re-edit to be made from the two releases of this. The back end of the 1932 is just the bomb. I would like one.

I think the kind of sh*t that the lad has handed Ian's way is simply borne of latent jealousy, lack of input and/or blatant stupidity. Point that kind of behaviour out by all means, someone has to, but don't stress about it, the silent majority read it for what it is.

Have you noticed that they have put a bouncier drum pattern behind it? Good edit though.

I just think it is a terrible useage of words Epic. Actually, a terrible moniker. How you anyway mate?

Not like you I'm sorry to tell you, you 'Forum Fighter' you. I have spent the last 25 years playing music to people three to five nights a week, hence my Nighter non attendance. I aim to make a difference with my weekends, spreading the word, unlike you 'Forum Fighters'. Armchairs are something I pass out on after a night of keeping American black music alive.

Could we go against the little, lucky arsed millionaire and retain the points system? Do we have a Poll system on here? It would be nice for people to score jocks on their performances at venues. Would you be up for some kind of league? PREMIERSHIP for a start. You know keep the money-earners on their toes an that? Who did the Modern Soul Sucks badges (Doh)? He could rattle some cards off, couldn't you mate? Come on let's keep it Premiership - simply score on a 1 to 10 basis their performances at the big venues. We could even produce a 'SHOOT' cardboard cut out league that we could Sellotape to our bedroom walls. Searling could have Spurs colours etc. Sam could have a Spearmint logo, like his late 80's belt an that. It'd bring a bit of competition and fun to our wall mounted score keepers, surely? Thoughts. I just got a picture of a European Cup Final whereby Sam drops the Blue Sharks and bombs out, a la Terry, on a penalty shoot out to searlings Linda Jones. I think it's time for me to go isn't it? Love you all. G'night. Baz x

Any abnormalities that spring to mind whist observing lads playing records? We all have 'em. Sam has loads - his ear-cupping moments are fun to see. And if you watch him in future he has always had a tendency to randomly touch the decks about two inch to the right of the Start/Stop button. I'll come back to this. (Hopefully, as I have to sneak in a ninja-like manner into bed without Gill waking up. "No! I've just got up for a piss love!", normally gets me out of it. Here goes, wish me luck.

I got a Sue Ann Jones in a Barcelona market for a quid, along with a twelve inch of 'Spasticus Autisiticus' by Ian Dury & The Blockhead's...I nearly fell over.

Didn't mean that in a bad way at all. The 'Dilly Dally' will always remind of Pete Lawson - THE icon.

That revolving dancefloor though?

Good shout. G'night.

I'll have to go to bed in a minute too, the wife, as usual, is gonna murder me.

HA HA HA HA I'm so happy with that.

Exactly Andy. Personal persecution at the hands of this music takes much more vim than public exhibition to me, nice to see I'm not alone.