King Errison - The King Arrives - Charly Records

Canyon exploded onto the LA scene in 69, burned brightly for some months & then imploded. Some of their business practices weren't too great (they certainly ripped off Rudy Love -- but at least we were able to EVENTUALLY get Rudy's Canyon album; though it was only released in the UK on Manhattan and badged up as being by Tyrone Davis).

The Vinyl Word: Rudy Love and the Manhattan project

https://thevinylword.blogspot.com/2019/03/rudy-love-and-manhattan-project.html

21 hours ago, Roburt said:

Canyon exploded onto the LA scene in 69, burned brightly for some months & then imploded. Some of their business practices weren't too great (they certainly ripped off Rudy Love -- but at least we were able to EVENTUALLY get Rudy's Canyon album; though it was only released in the UK on Manhattan and badged up as being by Tyrone Davis).

The Vinyl Word: Rudy Love and the Manhattan project

https://thevinylword.blogspot.com/2019/03/rudy-love-and-manhattan-project.html

All very odd John ,Wally Roker did release some great records though ,Doris Duke ,Swamp Dogg ,Rudy etc

1 hour ago, Eddie Hubbard said:

All very odd John ,Wally Roker did release some great records though ,Doris Duke ,Swamp Dogg ,Rudy etc

I'm sure they overstretched themselves financially -- distributing a load of other labels whilst still trying to establish themselves ... THINK their A&R shortcomings were coz they saw the Whispers (on Soul Clock) as their biggest act -- hence them taking some of Rudy Love's songs and cutting them on the group whilst shelving Rudy's original versions.

The same team had some time earlier signed up Tyrone Davis and cut him on tracks that were leased to ABC. But he too wasn't impressed by the way they treated him, so he left LA and signed with Dakar back in Chicago. The rest of that story is now well known, with Tyrone going on to enjoy many hits. So the only output from his time in LA (with Wally Roker) was one ABC 45 and (later on) the original LA cut version of ""Can I Change my Mind"" getting a release.

Edited June 27Jun 27 by Roburt

Here is Tyrone's take on events and his recordings at Sack, ABC and then at Ray Charles' studio in California, published in Blues and Soul #36 (June 1970, so not so long after events).

I've always thought that these were:

Sack Recordings - Tyrone Davis (The Wonder Boy)

US Sack single 4359 A I Tried It Over (And Over Again) (but also uncredited as "Let's Try It Over" on UK LP Doris Duke and Friends - Funk Fox Manhattan 5033)

US Sack single 4359 B I'm Running A Losing Race (but also uncredited as "Losing Race" on UK LP Doris Duke and Friends - Funky Fox Manhattan 5033)

ABC Recordings - Tyrone Davis

ABC 11030 (US 45) What If A Man/Bet You Win

Ray Charles Studio recordings

Can I Change My Mind (unreleased except on UK LP Probe Soul Bible Volume 1). The first of at least five recordings of the song by Tyrone.

How Can You Call That Love (unreleased except uncredited on UK LP Doris Duke and Friends - Funky Fox Manhattan 5033)

Don't Fight The Feeling (unreleased except uncredited on UK LP Doris Duke and Friends - Funky Fox Manhattan 5033)

So perhaps we are still missing one, if Tyrone thought there were four?

Anyway I look forward to the King Errison release, which just might encourage Charly to dig a little deeper into the vaults of Sack/Canyon and associated labels, giving credit where credit is due.

Tyrone was much less complimentary about his dealings with Wally Roker in another interview. I guess that as the above was his 1st big UK interview, he was being more diplomatic about things this time.

Thanks for your contributions Roburt and Kesalocasoul ,now thinking about a Canyon compilation album …

I am sure we both, and many others, would look forward to that.

I have the vinyl, if the masters can't be found...

Wally Roker passed about 10 years ago. But Swamp Dogg is still around & usually on the case. So he might know what happened to the old Canyon related master tapes.