I often see record condition described as 'a real shame about the drill hole, otherwise would be mint', and it seometimes seems to put a few collectors off a bit. For some reason I don't care about them and got to admit I even prefer the ones with drillholes. I also never mention it in my sales descriptions because I don't really see it as an imperfection (as opposed to wol etc.), more as something that gives a record some kind of edge.

What are your views about this? Does anyone really care if there's a drill hole in the label of one of your beloved 45s? Anorak question I know, but I take pride in my record nerdism and I'm sure I'm not the only one on here

Depends where the DH is really. They are obviously just random and can end up obscuring wording on the labels and look messy aswell. So it's understandable that some, let's say, demanding collectors might be put off.

Generally though, they reflect the nature of what the record is. One which never made it as a seller and ended up in the Bargain Bin for ten-a-penny. What most of our beloved records were really. So, it's swings and roundabouts for me.

Personally they don't put me off, although saying that I do think if selling then the drill hole should be mentioned.

What are your views about this? Does anyone really care if there's a drill hole in the label of one of your beloved 45s? Anorak question I know, but I take pride in my record nerdism and I'm sure I'm not the only one on here

I always thought it added to a record's provenance, equally I don't mind writing on the label if it indciates a release date or plug side. I'm more worried about what a record sounds like.

Mike

BTW have bootlegs ever been sold with drill holes?

I spent a bloody cold January early 80's in one once trying to master shoulder arms with Cpl Taff Evans rapping my knuckles with a pace stick every time I got it wrong!!!!! Oops sorry thought it said Drill Halls.

Not really bothered regarding drill holes as long as the tune plays.

Kev

I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE GRATEFUL FOR D/H,

AS FAR AS I KNOW IT WAS TO STOP SHOPS SENDING BACK ANY RECORDS THEY COULDN'T SELL,

( NO SALE OR RETURN ),

ALL THE OUTLET'S THAT SOLD RECORDS WOULD HAVE SENT THEM BACK TO THE DISTRIBUTORS WHO WOULD MOST LIKELY HAVE MELTED THEM DOWN TO MAKE MORE, SO THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT LESS 45S FOR US TO COLLECT,

JOE.

They never really bothered me until I found a pile of about 10 of each mint Fantastic Four and Al Kent 45's on the Dark Red Canadian Ric Tic label and the drill hole went through the last 5 or 6 grooves, gutted.

Never bothered me & for me it doesn't reflect on the price as I don't count it as a flaw due to the reason it was done, in fact the only thing that ever puts me off is when someone had scribbled their name on the label

KTF

Baz

I often see record condition described as 'a real shame about the drill hole, otherwise would be mint', and it seometimes seems to put a few collectors off a bit. For some reason I don't care about them and got to admit I even prefer the ones with drillholes. I also never mention it in my sales descriptions because I don't really see it as an imperfection (as opposed to wol etc.), more as something that gives a record some kind of edge.

What are your views about this? Does anyone really care if there's a drill hole in the label of one of your beloved 45s? Anorak question I know, but I take pride in my record nerdism and I'm sure I'm not the only one on here

If a dealer thinks a DH devalues a record and downprices it accordingly- fine for me!!

They never really bothered me until I found a pile of about 10 of each mint Fantastic Four and Al Kent 45's on the Dark Red Canadian Ric Tic label and the drill hole went through the last 5 or 6 grooves, gutted.

ouch! You'd think there's enough space on the label to drill it there... I guess somebody wasn't too keen on the outros of those tunes eh