DID ANY ONE BUY ANY OF THESE FROM A SELLER IN JERSEY OFF EBAY BEFORE XMAS ?

IF SO WHAT DID YOU THINK OF THEM ?

KEV

extremly poor condition mine are being returned, didnt expect them to be brilliant but couldnt even pull one half decent single out of them. but he has accepted them for return and full refund. did you buy any of him?

extremly poor condition mine are being returned, didnt expect them to be brilliant but couldnt even pull one half decent single out of them. but he has accepted them for return and full refund. did you buy any of him?

YES AT FIRST GLANCE MINE ARE AS YOURS WILL LOOK AT THEM TOMORROW IN DAYLIGHT BEFORE CONTACTING HIM BUT THEY LOOK CRAP

KEV

I saw these and didn't get a good feeling, so left them!

WENT THROUGH THEM ALL TODAY THERE WAS ONE GROUP SOUL 45 THAT MANSHIP BOOKS AT £50 IT WAS IN MINT COND PLUS A FEW OTHERS I SHOULD GET MY MONEY BACK ON BUT IT WAS THE TWO RIC TIC SLEEVES THAT WERE THE DECIDERS

KEV

Ric Tic sleeves? Didn't know they existed

Ric Tic sleeves? Didn't know they existed

HERE YOU GO

KEV

Thought I would post my letter of response to TOMMYMAC's post about the records he bought of me, and what the hell it has got to do with Steve Plumb who, as he says "saw them" but had no knowledge of what they were.

Hello Tom,

Got the records back today and spent the afternoon going through them all, playing everyone. Clearly from your "skip them" comment you were disappointed with what you got, but having been through them all I fear this was more to do with content than quality. I have been buying and selling soul records since the late 60's and have always used a standard grading system :-

RECORD GRADING:

NM (Near Mint): Like new, looks unplayed.

VG++: A few very faint surface marks, nothing that will affect play

VG+: A few more marks than a VG++. Used but not abused.

VG: Light scuffs and light scratches, there will be light surface wear to the record. Expect some light surface noise in parts or a few clicks or pops here and there.

VG-: The record may have some scratches that will be deep enough to feel. Audible clicks and pops may be consistently present, but no skips.

G: A record that has been played and not taken care of. Constant background noise will be present. Buyer should view records with this grade as filler copies.

The records when listed were described as follows - Approximately 50% of these are new - old store stock that have not been played. The rest vary from vg++ to g+. Some will have water damage or wear on the labels. I have not play tested these as there are too many and they are sold as is.

Of the records in your pack having played and inspected everyone carefully I would grade them as follows:-

41 NM

10 VG+

15 VG

21 VG-

13 G

All of the records played through without any skips, The low grade records do sound bad and I apologise for that, but the rest played ok with varying degrees of back ground noise. Some had dust and debris on them that just needed a wipe with a damp cloth. Comments by you like "the so called new old store stock" are not very helpful as one look at any of them will tell you that they are exactly that, and everyone played through perfectly. A couple of the unplayed records were poor quality pressings but looked fine until played. I also did not appreciate your comments on Soul Source " didnt expect them to be brilliant but couldnt even pull one half decent single out of them" Not sure what you were expecting to get for £0.50p a pop - Joseph Webster, George Pepp? The idea that every time you buy lots of records you should be able to make a profit out of them is flawed in the extreme. At this level and at this price it is always going to be a lucky dip.

Although by no means definitive I priced up a number of the NM records on John Manships site and 23 of them that were listed totalled a value of £275. These included - THE ULTIMATE CHOICE - MY BODY'S HOT - HEAT at £40 and LU,PAUL & BRIAN - MAMA SAID PAPA SAID - JANUS at £50. So if you had kept them you would have had yourself a bargain. You have probably done me a favour sending them back because I can probably get more for them, also one of the GOLDEN WORLD records was in a RIC-TIC sleeve and I already have people interested in that.

After all is said and done I agreed to give you a refund which I will do, with the spectre of negative feedback hanging over any EBAY sale it pointless trying to do anything else.

I genuinely feel that overall you are losing out here because the value of the pack far exceeds what you paid for it.

Chris Frost

Thought I would post my letter of response to TOMMYMAC's post about the records he bought of me, and what the hell it has got to do with Steve Plumb who, as he says "saw them" but had no knowledge of what they were.

Hello Tom,

Got the records back today and spent the afternoon going through them all, playing everyone. Clearly from your "skip them" comment you were disappointed with what you got, but having been through them all I fear this was more to do with content than quality. I have been buying and selling soul records since the late 60's and have always used a standard grading system :-

RECORD GRADING:

NM (Near Mint): Like new, looks unplayed.

VG++: A few very faint surface marks, nothing that will affect play

VG+: A few more marks than a VG++. Used but not abused.

VG: Light scuffs and light scratches, there will be light surface wear to the record. Expect some light surface noise in parts or a few clicks or pops here and there.

VG-: The record may have some scratches that will be deep enough to feel. Audible clicks and pops may be consistently present, but no skips.

G: A record that has been played and not taken care of. Constant background noise will be present. Buyer should view records with this grade as filler copies.

The records when listed were described as follows - Approximately 50% of these are new - old store stock that have not been played. The rest vary from vg++ to g+. Some will have water damage or wear on the labels. I have not play tested these as there are too many and they are sold as is.

Of the records in your pack having played and inspected everyone carefully I would grade them as follows:-

41 NM

10 VG+

15 VG

21 VG-

13 G

All of the records played through without any skips, The low grade records do sound bad and I apologise for that, but the rest played ok with varying degrees of back ground noise. Some had dust and debris on them that just needed a wipe with a damp cloth. Comments by you like "the so called new old store stock" are not very helpful as one look at any of them will tell you that they are exactly that, and everyone played through perfectly. A couple of the unplayed records were poor quality pressings but looked fine until played. I also did not appreciate your comments on Soul Source " didnt expect them to be brilliant but couldnt even pull one half decent single out of them" Not sure what you were expecting to get for £0.50p a pop - Joseph Webster, George Pepp? The idea that every time you buy lots of records you should be able to make a profit out of them is flawed in the extreme. At this level and at this price it is always going to be a lucky dip.

Although by no means definitive I priced up a number of the NM records on John Manships site and 23 of them that were listed totalled a value of £275. These included - THE ULTIMATE CHOICE - MY BODY'S HOT - HEAT at £40 and LU,PAUL & BRIAN - MAMA SAID PAPA SAID - JANUS at £50. So if you had kept them you would have had yourself a bargain. You have probably done me a favour sending them back because I can probably get more for them, also one of the GOLDEN WORLD records was in a RIC-TIC sleeve and I already have people interested in that.

After all is said and done I agreed to give you a refund which I will do, with the spectre of negative feedback hanging over any EBAY sale it pointless trying to do anything else.

I genuinely feel that overall you are losing out here because the value of the pack far exceeds what you paid for it.

Chris Frost

DESPITE MY RESERVATIONS AT FIRST GLANCE I AGREE WITH YOUR POST AND WILL BE LEAVING POSITIVE FEEDBACK

KEV

Thanks Kev, your comments are appreciated, i am not out to rip anyone off. Just trying to shift a load of old records. Got another couple of thousand to get through as well.

Thanks Kev, your comments are appreciated, i am not out to rip anyone off. Just trying to shift a load of old records. Got another couple of thousand to get through as well.

Hi Chris

Many apologies, that's the problem with making a quick one line reply on SS (like i did above)

I was not inferring anything untoward and certainly didn't mean anything about you ripping anyone off?

i was meaning I had read the advert and didn't get a good feeling that there would be anything in there for me, so decided not to bid!

Hope this clears the situation up?

Cheers

Steve

Hi Steve,

No worries, thanks for clearing that up. Maybe I am getting over sensitive in my old age !!

Incidently about 1500 of the 3000 that I listed on ebay came from my swap with Ian Levine, I know you did a similar deal with Ian so you will know what sort of thing would be included in these lots.

Chris

I don't have an opinion on the actual transaction as I was not involved but the pricing comment in your post is funny:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Northern-Soul-Funk-LU-PAUL-BRIAN-on-JANUS-/360551473898?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item53f28ae2ea

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTIMATE-CHOICE-My-Bodys-Hot-Pt-I-II-45-M-US-1982-disco-funk-orig-Heat-2010-/190688738856?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2c65ef3e28

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTIMATE-CHOICE-My-Bodys-Hot-soul-vinyl-45-/350449778153?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item51986f3de9

I don't have an opinion on the actual transaction as I was not involved but the pricing comment in your post is funny:

https://www.ebay.com/...=item53f28ae2ea

https://www.ebay.com/...=item2c65ef3e28

https://www.ebay.com/...=item51986f3de9

Well you could never accuse Johnny M of being cheap could you.