Cleveland Robinson - Love Is A Trap - Nosnibor #1002

The definitive original is a Rite press with their code #14960 on the label/in the deadwax.

Question...does anyone know where the other press for this release was manufactured...obviously not a Rite press, as it doesn't have the dip in the vinyl under the label or their code on the label/name in the deadwax. I believe it has "AR5-43-13 AND "DR"? in the dead wax.

Any ideas appreciated.

Edited May 26, 201411 yr by Anoraks Corner

I was looking at a pair of Palmers.... Jt Rhythm last night with the ARP and Bell Sound in the dead wax but most of my ARP'eds are Frank Ford Wayned....all Detroit pressed and not ARC.

Edited May 26, 201411 yr by Prophonics 2029

I have my Palmers mastered at Bell Sound and Sheldon, and als o 3rd stamp insignia that I don't recognise, and pressed at 4 different plants, only Columbia Midwest and ARP that I can recognise, I assume  the 3rd different plant is Rite, as the code looks compatible. 

Edited May 26, 201411 yr by RobbK

Don't think this is an ARP as their is no stamp and the scratched in code is AR5.

It can't be Archer, as it is not an Archer code.

I have seen the brown and a purple copy.

Popsike shows 2.

Edited May 26, 201411 yr by Prophonics 2029

And I thought that I was anal!!!

Could you post a scan of this?

 

This could be a Pama custom press. The numbering would read ARS-45-13. That fits into the numbered sequence Pama used. Pama was a pressing plant in Cleveland. A picture of the label and dead wax would allow me to make a 100% ID, as I can tell the font/label design they used for pressings.

 

Cleveland Robinson - Love Is A Trap - Nosnibor #1002

The definitive original is a Rite press with their code #14960 on the label/in the deadwax.
Question...does anyone know where the other press for this release was manufactured...obviously not a Rite press, as it doesn't have the dip in the vinyl under the label or their code on the label/name in the deadwax. I believe it has "AR5-43-13 AND "DR"? in the dead wax.

Any ideas appreciated.

And I thought that I was anal!!!

Is that about the thread or do you have a medical condition. ? Try p in your search engine for proctology unless Nosnibor is a bum cream as well.

 

 

 

They are quiet similar but the R of the records is in a different place on each record, one under the first apex of the N and the other on the scroll.

Edited May 27, 201411 yr by Prophonics 2029

I have seen the brown and a purple copy.

Popsike shows 2.

 

Trick of the scan quality I think Tony...the "brown" is actually a deep purple/maroon colour.

 

Check out the next post for clearer scans...note the font/layout/lack of a matrix number (left side of label)/no Rite "dip" etc on the Pama copy.

Edited May 27, 201411 yr by Flynny

Could you post a scan of this?

 

This could be a Pama custom press. The numbering would read ARS-45-13. That fits into the numbered sequence Pama used. Pama was a pressing plant in Cleveland. A picture of the label and dead wax would allow me to make a 100% ID, as I can tell the font/label design they used for pressings.

 

You may have hit the nail on the head with Pama, George! The font should give the game away:

Flynny,

 

I am sure that is a Pama pressing. The font for address and 'RECORD" part are dead on. The Nosnibor font is a stencil. The number 13 is a missing number in the sequence that I posted the link to below (I made the list with help from friends).

 

I was not aware of the existence of this until now. I've seen many of the Rite pressings. Many of the Pama pressings are 100 copies or less and are unknown outside of local fanatics. A recent garage 45 discovery was a 25 count pressing. The Rite pressing seems to be from around July 1965. The Pama pressing would be from around the same time, it's likely that this was the first press of a handful and then Cleveland made a much larger Rite press (i'd guess there were 1000-2000 copies of the Rite press).

 

There are also many Pama pressings that are not numbered.

 

https://www.buckeyebeat.com/arpama.html