Juno this week is full of new lookalike 45s, many of which are pretend promos including:

 

Vel-Vets 20th Century white label, Charles Sheffield Excello white, Collins and Collins A&M white promo, Constellations (both tunes) Gemini Star white promo, Don Gardner Tru-Glo Town white...

 

 

...and then there's Jesse Johnson/Gypsies  - Old Town, Mel Britt Fip, Etta James/Doug Banks Chess, &th Ave Aviators/Ritchie Adams - Congress, Willie Jones - Mr Peacock, Marion James/Lillian Offit  - Excello, Velvet Hammer - Soozy, Frank bloody Wilson / inst - Soul...

 

Who the devil is behind all this stuff and is has Juno ever been challenged for selling such blatant boots?

Not sure about all of them but I think Vel Vets comes from Northampton way

The title of the topic "I got boots"; Bobby Bland had 'shoes' but its been played that often there must be holes in em by now so can you lend him some of them boots......

You can usually spot them as the label, although it looks quite passable is always 5cm smaller in diameter. No idea why, unless they just don`t make 90cm stick-on labels anywhere.

Edited October 15, 201410 yr by Guest

You can usually spot them as the label, although it looks quite passable is always 5cm smaller in diameter. No idea why, unless they just don`t make 90cm stick-on labels anywhere.

 

I think you mean 5mm otherwise the label would be about as big as the centre hole

Can you send me a link please, I can't find anything on the Juno site

I think you mean 5mm otherwise the label would be about as big as the centre hole

hey!........i`m a lover......not a mathematician.  .......its about an 8th of an inch smaller in roundness.

Can you send me a link please, I can't find anything on the Juno site

 

Nor me, only cd's

Can you send me a link please, I can't find anything on the Juno site

Dunno how you're searching chaps  - they pop right up when I look. Couple have disappeared though - maybe by posting on here I helped advertised em!

 

https://www.juno.co.uk/soul/this-week/

Dunno how you're searching chaps  - they pop right up when I look. Couple have disappeared though - maybe by posting on here I helped advertised em!

 

https://www.juno.co.uk/soul/this-week/

 

Searched under Northern Soul, but they are in Soul.  Also searched for Vel Vets not Velvets.  Those are my excuses.

Most of those have been on Ebay for a good while.

Why does no one ever say who makes them?

if there's nothing wrong with boots, and people aren't ashamed of making them, why do we conspire with them to keep it mysterious?

I really object to all the r&b boots that have flooded the market over the last few years, but at least Jesse came on here and defended doing it, and in his opinion is doing nothing wrong.

Why does no one own up to playing boots out, even though we know lots of people must?

Fancy doing something so innocuous, relative to the really terrible things that go on, yet being so embarassed about it, that you'd keep it to nonce-style underground dealings.

All a bit grubby, cheap and sad this market in pretend stuff, a particularly parasitic form of free riding.

Edited October 15, 201410 yr by pow wow mik

Why does no one ever say who makes them?

if there's nothing wrong with boots, and people aren't ashamed of making them, why do we conspire with them to keep it mysterious?

I really object to all the r&b boots that have flooded the market over the last few years, but at least Jesse came on here and defended doing it, and in his opinion is doing nothing wrong.

Why does no one own up to playing boots out, even though we know lots of people must?

Fancy doing something so innocuous, relative to the really terrible things that go on, yet being so embarassed about it, that you'd keep it to nonce-style underground dealings.

All a bit grubby, cheap and sad this market in pretend stuff, a particularly parasitic form of free riding.

 

I don't know who makes them, I just know whenever Mick Smith gets any new ones they are from his 'mate in Northampton'...

If a record i cant afford but would like to own on vinyl gets booted i will buy it , simple as that .all the rest is propaganda .

Why does no one ever say who makes them?

if there's nothing wrong with boots, and people aren't ashamed of making them, why do we conspire with them to keep it mysterious?

I really object to all the r&b boots that have flooded the market over the last few years, but at least Jesse came on here and defended doing it, and in his opinion is doing nothing wrong.

Why does no one own up to playing boots out, even though we know lots of people must?

Fancy doing something so innocuous, relative to the really terrible things that go on, yet being so embarassed about it, that you'd keep it to nonce-style underground dealings.

All a bit grubby, cheap and sad this market in pretend stuff, a particularly parasitic form of free riding.

I have some bootlegs, I also have many original and reissues; I often play the bootlegs or reissues to save wear and tear on the OV since these can be difficult to replace, if DJing I play legit issues/reissues.

Those producing bootlegs could be prosecuted if they advertised their actions for copyright theft hence they need to keep their heads down.

I understand there is considerable hostility towards bootlegs, my main objection is that the artist doesn't get his/her royalties, perhaps if the music industry would allow these very old tunes to be legitimately reissued on vinyl there would be no market for bootlegs. Consider the difficulty the NS film had getting licences to release vinyl to coincide with the release of the NS film; the music industry creates barriers that deny the artist and themselves their fee.

I'm sure people want to buy legit records and originals are often rare, expensive or unobtainable. If bootlegs cost £5 and people are prepared to pay £10 for a legit reissue with the £2.50 to the artist and £2.50 to the copyright holder it makes sense to simplify their processes for legit reissues and get paid; as it stands they sell no vinyl reissues and consequently receive no money. The situation is insane with the only winners are those pressing and selling bootlegs; there is a market for legit reissues on vinyl which the music industry ignores and subsequently they don't get paid and neither does the artist. 

Is there a solution?   

I'm surprised that they can get away with reproducing a label like 20th Century. I know nothing about copywrite law, but is there a time limit on how long the law lasts?

hey!........i`m a lover......not a mathematician.  .......its about an 8th of an inch smaller in roundness.

steve, size matters. even to lovers LOL