Wonder if anyone could shed some light on a couple of Bobby Patterson records that i picked up recently ?

The first one is "My Baby's Coming Back To Me", seen the normal & the yellow vinyl copies but never come across one like this (see scan) the vinyl seems to be a mix of the black & yellow giving a beautiful tortoise shell effect. Had to lighten the scan to show it & it dosen't really do it justice. It dosen't seem to be listed on J Manship's site , so i wondered if anyone knew how many were made e.t.c.

The other is "Till You Give In" his old stomper tune, but it is on Abnak with a different b side. again wonder if anyone has information about it ?

Thanks.

The yellow/black mix is probably just polluted during production. Unless one of the workers were playing around again.

As far as I'm aware, it's the same flip side as the other release (Just worded slightly differently), it's the 'Till You Give In' side that is different.

Bobby Patterson (born 13-March-1944 in Dallas, Texas)

Abnak 112 - You Just Got To Understand / Till You Give In - 1966

Abnak 117 - You've Just Got To Understand / ? - 1967

Abnack Records were owned by John Abnor who recorded Patterson for the label and then later for the soul subsiduary Jetstar.

Edited August 10, 200618 yr by chalky

The yellow/black mix is probably just polluted during production. Unless one of the workers were playing around again.

Really beautiful mistake if it was Lars, it looks great, as i said scan dosen't really do it justice.

As far as I'm aware, it's the same flip side as the other release (Just worded slightly differently), it's the 'Till You Give In' side that is different.

Bobby Patterson (born 13-March-1944 in Dallas, Texas)

Abnak 112 - You Just Got To Understand / Till You Give In - 1966

Abnak 117 - You've Just Got To Understand / ? - 1967

I was going by the Jetstar 117 release which in JM's book has "Guess Who" as the b side Dave.

Do they pre date the Jetstar releases then or was it just an alternative ?

I was going by the Jetstar 117 release which in JM's book has "Guess Who" as the b side Dave.

Do they pre date the Jetstar releases then or was it just an alternative ?

Ah, I thought you were talking about the Abnak release not the Jetstar one.

Anyway, here's the full discography. It still doesn't answer the question of what was on the flip side of Abnak 117 though.

Bobby Patterson (born 13-March-1944 in Dallas, Texas)

Abnak 112 - You Just Got To Understand / Till You Give In - 1966

Abnak 117 - You've Just Got To Understand / ? - 1967

Jetstar 107 - If I Didn't Have You / What's Your Problem Baby - 1966

Jetstar 108 - Till You Give In / Long Ago - 1967

Bobby Patterson and The Mustangs (members Bobby Patterson (vocals), Andrew Jones (guitar), Michael Fugett (bass), Timothy McNeely (keyboards and trombone), Bobby Simpson (saxophone), Bill Thompson (trumpet) and Ronald Brewster (drums))

Jetstar 109 - Let Them Talk / Soul Is Our Music - 1967 (promo issues came in coloured vinyl)

Jetstar 110 - I'm Leroy - I'll Take Her / Sock Some Lovin' At Me - 1968 (promo issues came in coloured vinyl)

Jetstar 111 - Broadway Ain't Funky No More / I Met My Match - 1968 (promo issues came in coloured vinyl)

Jetstar 112 - The Good Ol' Days / Don't Be So Mean - 1968

Bobby Patterson

Jetstar 113 - Sweet Taste Of Love / Busy, Busy Bee - 1968 (promo issues came in yellow vinyl)

Jetstar 114 - T. C. B. Or T. Y. A. / What A Wonderful Night For Love - 1969

Jetstar 115 - My Thing Is Your Thing (Come Get It) / Keeping It In The Family - 1969 (promo copies came in yellow vinyl)

Jetstar 116 - My Baby's Coming Back To Me / What A Wonderful Night For Love - 1969 (promo issued came in orange vinyl)

Jetstar 117 - My Baby's Coming Back To Me / Guess Who - 1969

Jetstar 118 - Trial Of Mary Maguire / The Knockout Power Of Love - 1970

Jetstar 119 - If A Man Ever Loved A Woman (Baby I Love You) / You Taught Me How To Love - 1970

Jetstar 121 - I'm In Love With You / Married Lady - 1970

Paula 352 - Right On Jody / If You Took A Survey - 1971

Paula 362 - She Don't Have To See You (To See Right Through You) / How Do You Spell Love (M. O. N. E. Y.) - 1972

Paula 379 - It Takes Two To Do Wrong / Take Time To Know The Truth - 1973

Paula 386 - I Get My Groove From You / What Goes Around, Comes Around - 1973

Paula 388 - If Love Can't Do It (It Can't Be Done) / I'm In The Wrong - 1973

Granite 536 - If He Hadn't Slipped And Got Caught / Same - 1976

Granite 536 - If He Hadn't Slipped And Got Caught / I Got To Get Over It - 1976

All Platinum 2371 - Right Place, Wrong Time / I'll Take Care Of You - 1977

All Platinum 2371 - Right Place, Wrong Time / I Got A Suspicion - 1977

Paula 458 - How Do You Spell Love / Recipe For Peace - 198?

Proud 100 - I Can Help You Get Even With Him / I Got To Get Over - ?

Bobby Story (Bobby Patterson)

Proud 102 - Right Place, Wrong Time / I Got A Suspicion - 1982

12"

Malaco 1210 - Groove Me / Groove Me Some Mo - 1983

Unissued on Vinyl

If I Didn't Know Better - appeared in the U. K. on the 1991 Kent Cd "Bobby Patterson - Taking Care Of Business" CDKEND 098

Who Wants To Fall In Love - appeared in the U. K. on the 1991 Kent Cd "Bobby Patterson - Taking Care Of Business" CDKEND 098.

Ah, I thought you were talking about the Abnak release not the Jetstar one.

Anyway, here's the full discography. It still doesn't answer the question of what was on the flip side of Abnak 117 though.

Bobby Patterson (born 13-March-1944 in Dallas, Texas)

Abnak 112 - You Just Got To Understand / Till You Give In - 1966

Abnak 117 - You've Just Got To Understand / ? - 1967

Jetstar 107 - If I Didn't Have You / What's Your Problem Baby - 1966

Jetstar 108 - Till You Give In / Long Ago - 1967

Bobby Patterson and The Mustangs (members Bobby Patterson (vocals), Andrew Jones (guitar), Michael Fugett (bass), Timothy McNeely (keyboards and trombone), Bobby Simpson (saxophone), Bill Thompson (trumpet) and Ronald Brewster (drums))

Jetstar 109 - Let Them Talk / Soul Is Our Music - 1967 (promo issues came in coloured vinyl)

Jetstar 110 - I'm Leroy - I'll Take Her / Sock Some Lovin' At Me - 1968 (promo issues came in coloured vinyl)

Jetstar 111 - Broadway Ain't Funky No More / I Met My Match - 1968 (promo issues came in coloured vinyl)

Jetstar 112 - The Good Ol' Days / Don't Be So Mean - 1968

Bobby Patterson

Jetstar 113 - Sweet Taste Of Love / Busy, Busy Bee - 1968 (promo issues came in yellow vinyl)

Jetstar 114 - T. C. B. Or T. Y. A. / What A Wonderful Night For Love - 1969

Jetstar 115 - My Thing Is Your Thing (Come Get It) / Keeping It In The Family - 1969 (promo copies came in yellow vinyl)

Jetstar 116 - My Baby's Coming Back To Me / What A Wonderful Night For Love - 1969 (promo issued came in orange vinyl)

Jetstar 117 - My Baby's Coming Back To Me / Guess Who - 1969

Jetstar 118 - Trial Of Mary Maguire / The Knockout Power Of Love - 1970

Jetstar 119 - If A Man Ever Loved A Woman (Baby I Love You) / You Taught Me How To Love - 1970

Jetstar 121 - I'm In Love With You / Married Lady - 1970

Paula 352 - Right On Jody / If You Took A Survey - 1971

Paula 362 - She Don't Have To See You (To See Right Through You) / How Do You Spell Love (M. O. N. E. Y.) - 1972

Paula 379 - It Takes Two To Do Wrong / Take Time To Know The Truth - 1973

Paula 386 - I Get My Groove From You / What Goes Around, Comes Around - 1973

Paula 388 - If Love Can't Do It (It Can't Be Done) / I'm In The Wrong - 1973

Granite 536 - If He Hadn't Slipped And Got Caught / Same - 1976

Granite 536 - If He Hadn't Slipped And Got Caught / I Got To Get Over It - 1976

All Platinum 2371 - Right Place, Wrong Time / I'll Take Care Of You - 1977

All Platinum 2371 - Right Place, Wrong Time / I Got A Suspicion - 1977

Paula 458 - How Do You Spell Love / Recipe For Peace - 198?

Proud 100 - I Can Help You Get Even With Him / I Got To Get Over - ?

Bobby Story (Bobby Patterson)

Proud 102 - Right Place, Wrong Time / I Got A Suspicion - 1982

12"

Malaco 1210 - Groove Me / Groove Me Some Mo - 1983

Unissued on Vinyl

If I Didn't Know Better - appeared in the U. K. on the 1991 Kent Cd "Bobby Patterson - Taking Care Of Business" CDKEND 098

Who Wants To Fall In Love - appeared in the U. K. on the 1991 Kent Cd "Bobby Patterson - Taking Care Of Business" CDKEND 098.

Big thanks for that Dave will have a look on the net to see if i can find what the other side of 117 was, i dare say someone on here wil know though. Thanks again

P.s.

Do you think the vinyl colour was a mistake like lars says ?

Edited August 10, 200618 yr by Bogue

Big thanks for that Dave will have a look on the net to see if i can find what the other side of 117 was, i dare say someone on here wil know though. Thanks again

P.s.

Do you think the vinyl colour was a mistake like lars says ?

Almost certainly. They either hadn't cleaned the pressing machine, or had used the same storge bin for the 'raw' vinyl.

Big thanks for that Dave will have a look on the net to see if i can find what the other side of 117 was, i dare say someone on here wil know though. Thanks again

P.s.

Do you think the vinyl colour was a mistake like lars says ?

Not quite the full disocography - this was his first record:

...B side is called 'Dear Debbie'...

TONE

Not quite the full disocography - this was his first record:

...B side is called 'Dear Debbie'...

TONE

You bugger , you've been waiting to catch me out haven't you

Thanks for that Tone, It'll be added to the site tomorrow.

In fact, I've just done it

Edited August 10, 200618 yr by Dave Rimmer

'RECIPIE FOR PEACE' IS A GREAT TRACK !!!!!!!!

CHRIS M

Edited August 10, 200618 yr by bearsoul

busy busy bee and right on jody both excellent

used to be cheap as chips