Can anyone shed some light on this? I have an original Gill Scott Heron on Strata East (The Bottle) pressed in 1975. My girlfriend just purchased a copy on e-bay with a different label layout to mine but dated 1974 and looks genuine to me. So is mine a second pressing?

Sounds like yours is 2nd press A

That picture is just like mine.....The record has a the non-slip grips and is in the original picture sleeve

Hello again. Just out of wondering if your Pic Sleeve is the same as this

Did not get the picture.... but mine has four guys playing intruments in a bottle which says special club on the front.

Soz about that is this the one ?

Used to have above,it`s Italian or some Euro release so probberly a first issue in the respective country.

Thanks for picture.... Its the same as mine the french issue. And maybe my girlfriends is an Italian pressing.

Cheers Mitch.

Now i'm confused Have a look on WWW.Raresoulman.co.uk or am i reading the info wrong

Used to have above,it`s Italian or some Euro release so probberly a first issue in the respective country.

Think its French that one Ken check out the "picture sleeves" thread

Also got a Belgian release with a silly pic sleeve

Cheers Paul

The copy shown in Kev Roberts top 500 is the same as the one you sent to me and also my copy. The bootleg is the same as this copy also but without the silver writing and a poor reproduction label. My girlfriends is like this but with less information on. It has no star on the plug side and the paper label is a creamy colour. Also it has no non skid grooves. Must admit this is the first one ive seen.

Can anyone shed some light on this? I have an original Gill Scott Heron on Strata East (The Bottle) pressed in 1975. My girlfriend just purchased a copy on e-bay with a different label layout to mine but dated 1974 and looks genuine to me. So is mine a second pressing?

Mine is a 1974, never seen a 1975 on the Strata-east label before, could be a 2nd pressing though

I've had a few copies of this but the one I've kept has a 'drunken intro' just before the uno, dos, tres,

I've had a few copies of this but the one I've kept has a 'drunken intro' just before the uno, dos, tres,

Heres the Belgian pic sleeve

Doesn"t feature the "drunken" intro just goes straight into the "uno dos...." but it doesn't fade out like the original US 45 the music stops dead like the LP version. So a fuller version I guess

Cheers Paul

I know that this topic has been talked about before but iam trying to confirm if this is an original, second issue, repress or boot. Seems legit to me although I find it strange just to have Gil Scott-Heron and not Gil Scott- Heron and Brian Jackson in the title. Label, picture sleeve and vinyl looks cosher. Thanks

Edited June 9, 201015 yr by Mick Reed

Thats the original French release with the full LP version including the "drunken" intro

I'm not sure on the release date.............I know the Belgian one was later than "74

Cheers Paul

Thats the original French release with the full LP version including the "drunken" intro

I'm not sure on the release date.............I know the Belgian one was later than "74

Cheers Paul

Cheers Paul.

It's also worth pointing out that the U.S. actually issued a 7" Strata East promo on this when it was first issued as well. Must be pretty rare......

Ian D

Thats the original French release with the full LP version including the "drunken" intro

I'm not sure on the release date.............

It's from '75.

It's also worth pointing out that the U.S. actually issued a 7" Strata East promo on this when it was first issued as well. Must be pretty rare......

Ian D

So this must be this one than ian.

https://cgi.ebay.com/Gil-Scottt-Heron-Bottle-northern-soul-funk-/110543662391?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Records&hash=item19bcea6d37

It's from '75.

Merci Philippe ................so pretty much a contemporary release then

Cheers Paul

So this must be this one than ian.

https://cgi.ebay.com/...=item19bcea6d37

Yep. Don't see many of 'em around so that's a coincidence.....

Ian D

It's also worth pointing out that the U.S. actually issued a 7" Strata East promo on this when it was first issued as well. Must be pretty rare......

Ian D

Haven't seen it, but the 12" promo usually goes for $100+ on eBay, doesn't it?

hi , i bought this a few months ago , i have never seen a white promo before , label number is different than the issue , but the same - SP399 A 96772 - in the run out , there is a stamped circle on the bside also on the sleeve , i have gone over this with a pencil so my scanner can pick it up

it just about says no ?????, underneath ( sub - radio 15 -7 - 75 )

hope this helps on the french release info , ps it does say brian jackson at the bottom of b side label , but not on a side ? thanks Eddy

Always confused me this one, i'll quote Tim Browns Essential Northern Soul Price guide......................GIL SCOTT HERON ' THE BOTTLE'

'The true original is actually only on an album track. The French single was copied on a boot, this boot has no striated edge around the label and is totally smooth, otherwise it looks quite convincing.'

I have the original album Gil Scott- Heron / Brian Wilson ' Winter In America' Strata East Records SES-19742.

Always confused me this one, i'll quote Tim Browns Essential Northern Soul Price guide......................GIL SCOTT HERON ' THE BOTTLE'

'The true original is actually only on an album track. The French single was copied on a boot, this boot has no striated edge around the label and is totally smooth, otherwise it looks quite convincing.'

I have the original album Gil Scott- Heron / Brian Wilson ' Winter In America' Strata East Records SES-19742.

The plot thickens.

So this must be this one than ian.

https://cgi.ebay.com/...=item19bcea6d37

I've had this for years and always thought it might be dodgy as opposed to my other copy which in hindsight probably is the dodgy one! If you get my drift.

Any way this US demo doesn't have the spoken counted intro. Which suggests that it was released for discos at the time the album was released.

Regards Alan

Im amazed this thread has resurfaced i put it on June 2007

Why amazed, who looks back, the whole forum is a constant re-visit, the subject matters are like any pub conversation, it comes around again.....