hello

the roulette 12" four below zero - "my babys got esp"

is the version longer on the 12" or the same version on the 7" but just on 12" vinyl?

cheers

mick

hello

the roulette 12" four below zero - "my babys got esp"

is the version longer on the 12" or the same version on the 7" but just on 12" vinyl?

cheers

mick

Longer on the 12" Mick, 5.24 according to the listing on discogs.....

https://www.discogs.com/release/793449

Cheers Gareth

Longer on the 12" Mick, 5.24 according to the listing on discogs.....

https://www.discogs.com/release/793449

Cheers Gareth

thanks gareth

From my recollection it was one of the earliest 12" singles to come from the US which I bought when it came out. I listened to it again recently after hearing the single at a local soul night and it is definitely more of a 'disco' mix than the 7".

Longer... don't remember it being any more disco... maybe punchier sound as it's a 12"?

Has Gentlemen & Their Ladies "Like Her" on the flip.

Longer... don't remember it being any more disco... maybe punchier sound as it's a 12"?

Has Gentlemen & Their Ladies "Like Her" on the flip.

Just played it and compared to the refosoul version - you're probably right that it isn't any more disco - just got a long instrumental bit in the middle. As far as I can remember Gentleman and Their Ladies was the top side though it was a long time ago so I might be wrong on that too.

Just played it and compared to the refosoul version - you're probably right that it isn't any more disco - just got a long instrumental bit in the middle. As far as I can remember Gentleman and Their Ladies was the top side though it was a long time ago so I might be wrong on that too.

Is it not just Pt 1 & 2 from the 7"?

Is it not just Pt 1 & 2 from the 7"?

Don't know - I've only got the 12" so I can't compare. It needs someone who has both to provide the answer.

i seem to think it is - had both, now only have the 7"

I have all 3 releases (45 P&P, 45 Roulette, 12" Roulette)

All different!

Orig P&P less discoey and more earthy than Roulette version.

12" full version with long instrumental bit in the middle.

45 Roulette (from memory) Parts 1 & 2 I think is the actual 12" and the same mix but i'd need to double check that!

Will do it later unless someone comes up with the full answer before then?

Cheers

Steve

I have all 3 releases (45 P&P, 45 Roulette, 12" Roulette)

All different!

Orig P&P less discoey and more earthy than Roulette version.

12" full version with long instrumental bit in the middle.

45 Roulette (from memory) Parts 1 & 2 I think is the actual 12" and the same mix but i'd need to double check that!

Will do it later unless someone comes up with the full answer before then?

Cheers

Steve

Saddo that I am, I've just dug out all three versions and can report they ARE all different!

Everything I said above is right except the 45's are NOT simply the 12" split in two!

All three versions are the same up to the break (about two to two and a half minutes in). The 12" then has a long break (about 3 mins)and a brief vocal refrain. The bit from the break to the end of the 12" is virtually the same as both Part 2's on the 45's. (Don't forget the Roulette 45 & 12" are slightly more Discofied than the P&P 45!)

The BIG difference is the 45's from the break actually have a completely different ending with lots of vocals and choruses that are NOT on the 12". The 45's are more of a song (if you know what I mean?)

The 12" is of course louder than the 45's!

On balance I think I prefer the P&P original 45 version (which is just called ESP by the way!)

I think I need a lie down................................................

Steve