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HI ALL- That's the answer I was hoping to hear, as I have only the grey star Boot to compare with, red star and issue sold in the 8Ts, I could not resist this one, as I had never seen it, just compare it to a Robert Knight issue and it looks spot on, thanks DAVE

HI ALL The Blackpool MECCA SPIN covered up as "SOME GUYS" PATIANCE VALANTINE, Was so popular, that it was BOOTED With the C/U NAME, WHEN IT WAS UNCOVERD, IT WAS EDDIE WALKER "GOOD GUYS" RISING SONS R545-713B Since then I have had 3 different demos of it, 1, white label with red star, 2, white with green star (boot) & 3, white with no star? also the black issue, Q, IS THE ALL WUITE DEMO a Boot or legit? anybody,

Hi All They did release the 100 club 45's as advanced cops? Never seen them at all, I was thinking of going to this aniversary, just to get a 45? Dave

MARTYN PLEASE GROW UP! STOP THE INSULTS PLEASE, By all means have your say if it is to do with my reply about when records got played or become available, there is no need to act like my Grandson (in picture) he is 4 years old,? when I next see Mick Smith I will bet the full story of GRAPEVINE,as he gave me the acetates, maybe DAVE WELDING can come up with more info, personally I would rather have the KENT 45s that Mick had, and I never found out if Ady did similar to the KENT6T'S 100 CLUB FREEBEIS? As they would go for decent money, Anyway it seems that all the evidence points to early 78, but it is possible that GINGER had a cut from John in Dec 77, but was it played, please ask him, and put the tape on the TUBE YOU? AND NO MORE OF THIS CRAP PLEASE HOWS THE BROKEN LEG? TUT TUT? DAVE

IN RESPONCE HI ALL...Tell you what Martyn, you remember me, don't you,? the topic was about the acetate sold by John Manship at the end of his last auction, £600+, my input is about similar RCA acetates that I have or still have? and my posting has to reiterations stating that it is my opinion, and knowledge about the music industry in the 7T's when I has close friends starting companies in SOUND & LIGHT, WORKING BOTH, I also had the privilege to tour with a few bands stay in POST HOUSES & HOLIDAY INNS not BERNI INNS thinking it was cool yo take a sort for chicken in a basket, I have been to many All-Nighter and most of my records come from the TOP COLLECTORS, who also went to WIGAN & ST IVES Selling to many DJs, I will admit that these people were very knowledgeable and had good business heads, unlike myself who in comparison was a joker & immature, THE GRAPEVINE LABEL was just getting started when I dropped of the scene in May 78, there release of ROSEMARY & WHAT, meant nothing to me what so ever, as I had the original records, in the case of JUDY STREET my copy was from ADY CROSDALE, he was the first to sell copies on STRIDER, I must state to you, I have a strong dislike of cowards lies & hypocrites, also I take offence when someone thinks I doubt their opinion and become confrontational about it, however at that time I had to disappear from the scene as I was poisoned by all the intake of chemicals, in 77 I got busted for the 3rd time this was going to ST IVES, (We no a song about a man going to ST IVES, don't we children?) the old bill missed the wraps £10 deals in the corners of record sleeves? As I say I did not state anything about you or GINGER (HE HAD THE OTHER VERSION FROM JOHN?), Finally just to remind you I'm not a I'm A ex NORTH HERTS GANGSTER, MANY THANKS May the SPIRIT of 69 be with you! Mr K.

HI ALL Back in the 8t's the CAR BOOTS around Wolves had so many good finds, I often would get home spent up, with 1 to 200 45s, found loads of DEMOS even 1 Beatles R&W, + the Stones Rod Stewrt R&W COLUMBIA, The In-Betweens, + Steve Brett issue & demos. Micheal Jackson,DMC MEGA MIX, I am sure I was at the same BOOT as ROB when he got that, if it was DUDLEY ZOO? Yes she was from DUDLEY (I think you told me this fact?) like KEITH stated even though it falls in the Rare catogary not the very rare, even if you have the money, I can't see many collectors selling their copy, mine is minty from MJ RECORDS, who else, DAVE

HI ALL,,,It was never played in 77 anywhere!. I can't say that I am 100% sure, however if you look at my Jimmy Burnsand my Larry Clinton, they were issued on GRAPEVINE #118 & #120, IN MY OPINION! #115 EXISTS on a accitate as #123, #125,#127 & possible #135. #138, all the others as such there was no need, again this is only my opinion, So if what I am saying is part right (some unrealeased numbers may exist) the rare accitate copys were made available to at best 3 DJ's only and proberly only 12 weeks before release date, a s it is a sur bet any longer, someone would get hold of one. I have worked this out on the fact that some of the known accitates had a US demo or Issue, most of us did not see an AL WILLIAMS until the 1980s, if JOHN had the SHRINE CAT,he would have done the same again with Richard, The only doubt about when it got played is based on the month it was release minus 12 weeks so after March 78 it's 100% Jan & Feb 78 it would be 90%, I agree totaly with Ian how rare is rare? I had a CHRIS JACKSON on 444 LABEL, that's rare, so are these, and I am waiting for more scans, DAVE K

HI ALL...First things first, TOMMY HUNT, TOP RECORD. also worth a spin is DIRECTION #3216 "I NEED A WOMAN" CLASS. My pick at this early part of SATURDAY MORNING, Is a record from the shelf rather than the box? I can never pass it by without a spin, a classic in every which way, for sure, & from that period of time on the SOUL SCENE I call the TWIX, This was a time that many OLD SCHOOL dropped of the scene, no not 81, but 73 the TWIX between TORCH & WIGAN, when there were many classics unearthed and played at the PENDLEUM, VVAVA CENTRAL & CARLTON also STAFFORD and the HOWARD MALLET, The SOULVILLE ALL-STARS "I'M GONNA GET TO YOU" SOULVILLE RECORDS SV 1006B. Rated ***** Value £120 must have If you are not attempting to dance to this as I do and I am 60, give it up now please, as this is classic NORTHERN SOUL ENJOY.

HI ALL..Jerry I meant I thought it was Dana V when I 1st heard the record not now in 2012, I thought was before I become astute. had a does anyone think they no who it is? also I think that certain GRAPEVINE RECORS should be OK to play these days, if they are important to your set & don't get played when another DJ has the rare original copy in his set, and you have cocked it up, if I was doing a spot i would play my Larry Clinton, who wouldn't it cost me bugger all, not £500+ DAVE

HI ALL Pets info spot on, these 2 records were massive in 74 and like most I had to have the Bootleg,Stanley Mitchell being a bench mark of a top NORTHERN SOUL RECORD (if one was needed?) with a superb Detroit beat, the thing with Bootlegs back then was once BOOTED the record was not played, this was good in one way as the price of original records fell, but I really think some records should have still got spanked, as the tempo was bang on, the same thing goes with SAXIE RUSSAL, How many years would have passed by if the oldies nights had not been introduced, a wise move me thinks, as clearly the oldies nights at the CASINO were the ultimate in NORTHERN SOUL says I DAVE...PS the B side of Stanley Mitchel made it in it's own right and makes this record as a classic must have?

HI ALL The BETTY BOO come from Richard Wylie to John Anderson SOULBOWL as John did a lot of business with him, the story was given to PCRL in a excellent interview 15 years ago, The link between Richard John & RCA RECORDS Meant all was in place to release this classic, there was 1 problem in that POPCORN could not remember the name of the singer, so they used BETTY BOO, I think it was DANA VALLERY, however no one else does? the acetate, along with a few other releases is pretty unique to own & BETTY BOO is worth a bit more than most as it was not released in any other form, or was it?? as a owner of Larry Clinton "she's wanted in 3 states" & Jimmy Burns"I realy love you" RCA ACCITATE and seeing how valuable these discs are going for, a part of me would and should let it go up for sale the collector/s who have won the 2 copies that have been auctioned by John. Also I have to think what would I like as their is no proper valuation on these records, they are all rare and I would have thought some are far more desirable to have, my cat has 100% provenance and was played to DANCERS at WIGAN so it is a bit of unique RARE NORTHER SOUL, If I did get shot of it I think it would be a trade for a missing UK item that I need, if you have such stuff and would like it, this way is a fraction of the cash price? let me know, DAVE

HI ALL 200% ORIGANAL, NEVER BOOTED ON SWAN, However there are reissues on the ITZY LABEL, The SOUNDS OF THE LANE "TRACKS TO YOUR MIND with ITZY in small print are bootlegs, as it was release on COBBLESTONE some 3 years later. HEY SOLAN NEY Was a huge record at the TORCH, but sadly not played these days, STATESIDE ISSUES & DEMOS are very hard to locate in 2012, and should be snapped up when seen,a guaranteed investment record, DAVE

NICE ONE MATE, This is how I envisaged the post and eventually take the idea on the road 4 x years and run a record fair meet up and a few people DJ ING, JOHNNY PUGH from WOLVE did a very good event on them line 25 years ago, I really think is would take of, as when I see events with banners like STRICKLY MODERN SOUL or XOVER ??????& NORTHERN SOUL, to me it is so uncool and unknown DJ's called DJ Spanner or Mike the mike from RUNCORN? Now if it was SOULSOURCE LIVE, HITS the NORTH EAST PLAYING A HOST OF ECLECTIC BLACK MUSIC AND INSPIRED WHITE MUSIC WITH ALL THE FACES FROM OUT OF YOU BOX, YES PLEASE, TICKETS PLEASE ARE YOU GOIN? DOES A BEAR SHIT IN THE WOODS? I have got to pin another tune LATERS

HI ALL.. HOW MANY WEEKS TO CHRISTMAS!, SUMMER WAS A BUMMER, BUT THE FALL IS PARTY TIME, WELCOME TO SOULSOURCE RECORD CLUB, TUNE OF THE DAY, PICKED BY YOU, FROM OUT OF THE BOX, This is your site & your choice, it does not matter if you are a OLD SOULSTER that's seen the and kissed the ASS of the RARE SOUL SCENE, WENT TO THE WHEEL TORCH VAVA CATS WIGAN, or you watched the 1st episode of GEORGE BENTLY, & you like Dean Parish "I'm on my way" welcome one & all, to the worlds best SOUL MUSIC POST, #1 FOR CLASSS, You all no them rules, please add your comments or like tick the box, Here is the first 1 from myself, from the very start of the RARE SOUL SCENE, John E Abby from BLUES & SOUL Released records that appealed to both NORTH & London CLUBS, on the fabulous ACTION LABEL, so here is one of the best, when played loud your hair grows back into your nut, or was that them caps I swallowed, ACTION 4508 VERNON GARRETT - SHINE IT ON Rated ***** Value £30+ I REALY HOPE YOU ENJOY THIS STARTER FOR 10 DAVE K https://youtu.be/oRbMwMCunb0

HI ALL, Well what a brilliant summer we have had, but all good thing;s come to a end, for the sonics on SOULSOURCE who may think I jest! I am not, think of Brother inmate, banged up deprived of a Mr WIPPEY, I remember the summer 75, we had just done the last drop off in LIECTERSHIRE /? IT WAS 7AM MONDAY MORNING, we had just joined the M1, stopped for breakfast at Forest East Services, and headed South, 1 mile from the Services, Old Bill had put up a road block, to cut a great chapter to shreds. Next thing I was facing 14 years in a maximum security prison, rubbing shoulder with Frankie Frazier, Harry Roberts (he kills coppers) John Mcvicar, they had just bought in the Cambridge rapist ( who was a always covered in piss, this was because Chris and myself just had to get a laugh each day) and hear DIDDY David Hamilton play TD VALANTINE "LOVE TRAP" as his record of the week, (from me book,"more than SKIN DEEP")? NO I am not playing TD Valentine, THIS THREAD WILL CLOSE AT 3.30am to-day & reopen at 3.45am now the kids are back at school, here comes the current bun. to end my RECORD FROM THE BOX, Is a classic 2 sided from AL TNT BRAGGS, not Earthquake, but "how long" VOCALION 9278, A MUST HAVE RECORD, ALWAYS SOUNDS FRESH, AND SHOULD BE REVIVED, As always Fantastic records that have been picked, again not 1 duff record to be found, you can see the effort that has gone with every posting, what you get every time is a quality soul record, THANKS TO YOU ALL FOR SHARING THESE WITH US ALL. ENJOY THIS ONE, DAVE K https://youtu.be/gnHrW6xKqzc

HI I have not got a clue how Petes comment, got there, however it may be justified DAVE

HI PETE IS RIGHT, THESE SLEVES WERE FROM WOOLWORTHS, NEED I SAY MORE?

HI CHALKT YOU ARE A GOOD MAN THAT'S FOR SURE.

HI CHALKT YOU ARE A GOOD MAN THAT'S FOR SURE.

HI ALL NOTHIN TO DO WITH THE THREAD, How do you get the image that MIKE uses of the danceing man? DAVE

HI ALL .....STICKER REMOVAL WARNING! PLEASE DON'T USE MOST OF THE TIPS ALREADY GIVEN, AS THEY ARE A BAD JOKE, THAT I DON'T LIKE.... WHAT TO USE:- LIGHTER FLUID, METHS SPIRIT, MILD SOAPY SALOUTION, COTTON BUDS, LINT FREE CLOTH, ACTION:- APPLY FLUID TO THE STICKER, (FLUID WILL NO CAUSE ANY DAMMAGE). WHILE FLUID IS WET WIH YOU FINGER NAIL, GENTLEY TRY TO MAKE A GAP BY LIFTING THE STICKER FROM THE LABEL, ONCE YOU HAVE ACHIEVED THIS RE APPLY FLUID TO THE LABEL, MAKING SURE HAT IT PPENATRATES UNDER THE STICKER, AGAIN USING YOUR FINGER NAIL, SEPERATE THE STICKER FROM THE LABEL, AT ANY STAGE THE LABEL COULD BECOME FREE OR EASY, WHEN IT REACHES THIS STAGE, RE APPLY FLUID AND VERY GENLY PEEL HE STICKER, MOST LABEL TARES HAPPEN A THIS STAGE, MY TIP IS TO PEEL SO FAR, THEN PEEL FROM THE OPPERSIT SIDE, NEVER TUG, ONCE HE STICKER IS OF, THE RESIDUE LEFT ON HE LABLE WILL BE ACTIVE, SO THE NEXT STAGE IS DOWN TO THE PAPER USED FOR THE RECORD LABEL UK & US LABLES:- REMOVEING THE STICKER GOO OF A UK RECORD IS A PAIN! AS MOST UK LABELS ARE AT BEST BLAND, AND POURAS SO THE RULE IS TO DAB NOT RUB, i USE A COTTON BUD WITH FLUID ON, USE A GENTLE ROLLING ACTION, WHEN MOST OF THE GOO IS REMOVED, USE A CLOTH WITH MEHS AND DAB IT ON THE AREA, THE NEX STAGE IS DOWN TO THE PAPER USED, PYE &ATLANTIC 1st RED LABEL AND SIMULAR LABELS ARE EASY RUINED BY CHEMICLES AND THAT INCLUDES THE DAMAGE THE STICKER GLUE HAS LEFT AS IT WILL LEAVE A PATCH WERE IT HAS BEEN, MAKING A DARKER MARK ON THE LABEL, THIS IS WHY MOST DEALERS DONT BOTHER THESE DAYS IN ATTEMPTING TO REMOVE STICKERS, AS THE RECORDS VALUE IS REDUCED MORE, IF POOR RESTARATION WORK IS DONE, LEAVE IT TO AN EXPERT, i PURCHESSED A COPY OF THE 1st issue JOHNNY WYATS "THIS THING CALLED LOVE"PRESIDANT, FROM SOUL SAM AT LIFELINE ALL-NIGHTER, A VERY NICE COPY BU HAD SOME GREEN PEN MARKS ON IT, AFTER KNOCKING £20 OFF HIS ALREADY KNOCKED DOWN PRICE, i HAVE RESTORED IT BACK TO A PERFECT COPY AGAIN, THE QUESTION IS WHY DID MARIN NOT DO THIS? THE ANSWER IS I NO WHAT I AM DOING AND HAVE THE TIME AND PATIANTS, US RECORDS:- MOST US LABELS CAN BE RESTORED EASY IF YOU AKE YOUR TIME, THE PAPER USED IS VERY DIFFERANT THAN UK PAPER, BUT AGAIN, UNLESS YOU KNOW WHA YOU ARE DOING LEAVE ALONE, EVEN MORE SO IF THEY ARE RARE? ANY THING YOU DO IS AT YOUR RISK, SO I STAE AGAIN DON'T MESS UNLES YOU ARE SURE OF WHA YOU ARE DOING, TRUST ME, "NEVER PLAY WITH FIRE"?? AS ALWAYS I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS, ONLY MINE? DAVE K

HI ALL...PETE As you are aware I don't sell many records these days & I collect UK. However I have a few US label records both easy and hard to find or in my case only buy if cheap? I have both CAVALERS Northern Soul records one RCA, "I HOLD TO MY BABY" is a true classic, and I actually got the bootleg of it, A few weeks ago in the SOULSOURCE FOR SALE, I got a black issue in VG+ and 2 other records maybe 3, from a DETROIT DEALER for $100, I think he wanted $30 for it, if you check the last week of July you should find out, I can't believe that it was so cheap as a black issue, as i looks & plays great, was this just LUCK? DAVE

HI & CHEERS PETE you did not get it? did you see a scan, the first B&C MERRIL MOORE was produced by John Abbey (HOME OF THE BLUES, BLUES & SOUL, SUE & ACTION FAME) I think it's crap, Bobby(BLUE)Bland - HONEY CHILD VOCALION POP V-P. 9222 B/W AIN'T NOTHIN YOU CAN DO. DEMO, Yes got it, in-fact should I finish that label? DAVID JONES - LIZA JANE, Pete had it, so has my trouble who saw the man as ZIGGY, she also named my youngest ZOWIE, BOWIE FANS "What they like? crazy kids" many years ago all these type of records could be found on Portobello Road, on the market also INTOXIA Had 3 or 4 boxes of rare soul on UK I left a BUD HARPER DEMO £20 1 year later they still had it but for £40 so I left it, someone has it? or it may be still there the James Carr has got me going Pete DAVE

To be honest no never or the James Carr B&C DEMO yet as I say all the others have demo copies, so it may be alive, if He Out exists I would like it, but there's more chance in finding the Volumes on PAMA Which faced with all the evidence stating it does not, as I have written before, if you have seen it you believe it? DAVE