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:hatsoff2:HI PETE Sometimes you have to think in a lateral way, when it comes to the mistakes on the who's who of JA music, in this case the SOUND SYSTEM featuring OWEN GREY ISLAND WI-258, HOWEVER! the WIRL copy as with 90% of JA RECORDS has the best sound, in fact it's nice to collect UK releases as in the main thats what was available to the majority of white kids back in the mid 60ts, but I would always recommend the JA copy if you like the REGGAE in your jeggae, it's the BASS that makes REGGAE, IRE! (happy) FEELING, TUNE UP! DAVE HI ALL PETE I HAVE ONLY GOT "PLAYER PLAY ON" a Levine MECCA SPIN!!! To be serious this thread is exactly as I invisiged, some quality soul so far coming from the boxes DAVE

:hatsoff2:HI PETE Sometimes you have to think in a lateral way, when it comes to the mistakes on the who's who of JA music, in this case the SOUND SYSTEM featuring OWEN GREY ISLAND WI-258, HOWEVER! the WIRL copy as with 90% of JA RECORDS has the best sound, in fact it's nice to collect UK releases as in the main thats what was available to the majority of white kids back in the mid 60ts, but I would always recommend the JA copy if you like the REGGAE in your jeggae, it's the BASS that makes REGGAE, IRE! (happy) FEELING, TUNE UP! DAVE

HI ALL If you keep the public back 10 foot you could play this copy and get away with it?

HI That's a great question, that I don't know the answer to, I have done a little bit of DJing, but nothing this side of 2000, why! as I have a decent collection, I admit that I am a blockhead but thats no reason, i put it down to this, if the venue has not got a record dealer selling rare soul, you can guarantee that the music is not on original records, that is not to say you are in for a bad night, far from it, the issue though is if you are at an all nighters, this is time to egg and flour the DJ time DAVE

HI ALL ONLY IF YOU WANT TO BUST THE PICK UP ARM?? NO DJ SHOULD PLAY A BOOTLEG EVER, SO THE ANSWER IS A 100% NO, IF YOU DISAGREE MOVE OVER AND LET SOMEONE ELSE THE SPOT, WHO PLAYS RARE SOUL ORIGANALS DAVE

HI ALL When people talk about putting together a film or a play about the casino, how come they never consult with the record dealers of the day who where just as much a part of the Casino, on the GRANADA program the film crew spent a lot of time shooting the record sales in the bar area, but apart for less than 1 minute appears in the final program, this includes my record box, why do they not recognize the stalwarts of the scene? DAVE

HI ALL THIS IS A NICE ONE! I LIKEIT ANYWAY, ALSO ONE OF MY FAV RECORDS, DAVE

Hi my trouble has re listed it the photo is poor and does not do it justice the E-Bay UK # Item number: 180733183485 I don't no where I got the other one from (really the wife gave it to me)? I have over 30 original 60ts US button down shirts a couple of early 70ts penny round 3 big E jackets including the BLEACHER plus LEVI STA PRESS AND FRED PERRY EARLY BEN SHERMAN'S, PLUS OTHER STUFF SHEEPSKIN ABER CROMBIE, HMP LIVERPOOL EXTENDING BATON, DAVE

HI ALL THIS IS MY RECORD FOR TODAY 4th October 11, it's the B side of this scruffy water damaged Ember DEMO that I got from Paris the record is a chicken and egg for myself, in what come first? the YUM YUMS I assume and the Brothers Grimm 2nd and and who discovered it, again I have assumed it was one of the 100 Club 6ts boys Ady, Mick, Randy, Ian C, or Pete Wid, however I may be giving credit to the weong in crowd? the record is on the B SIDE of the YUM YUMS classic Gonna be a big thing, which was a cheap as chips at the Casino in fact it was considered the booby prize as the Sapphires was massive, but how wrong we were to dismiss the YUM YUMS?? LOOKY LOOKY is a record that I got because I thought it was a version of the OJAYS on Neptune, I have always preferred the Brothers Grimm as it just has a Little extra something for my taste, either way even water damaged it's a rare DEMO and the YUM YUMS IS AT LEAST 4 X THE VALUE, MY FIRST COPY WAS £2.50. Again no sound clips but I am sure it's on you tube? again either version should be played, DAVE

Hi the 1st bootleg was on gold the gold label original has Gothic writing CANTERBURY not SPQR as this has been pressed so many times and come out on NORFOLK SPQR & CANTERBURY Why by the bootleg for any thing over £1.00? DAVE

HI DAVE .So you did, this was just a comment of surprise from me that it went for such a low price, your logic is a bit like mine in that you look at the record and orig price to value it rather than the current market price? i call this the Jeanette White Music A&M DEMO UK issue as the going rate for it has never increased for over 20 years and it's current value is still the same £25, I would never let my copy go for that price? Even though I have been through really tough times at the moment, I will not sell my records to sort out a situation that was inflicted upon me, when Pete Smith sold his John Andrews last year, I thought at the time although he got good money for it, if it was me i would have to sell 2000 records before i sold my copy as like the marvels any UK SOUL will always be the crown jewels for the future, and when you look back at the records you once had don't you regret selling them? another example is this the original NOLAN CHANCE DEMO that I paid £1.75 from John Anderson 1974and I gave to Mick Smith in 78 when i walked of the scene to clean myself up, cost me £200 to replace it from Dave Welding, my point is in this example £200 is about as cheap as it goes for that record, and i know Mick would buy it tomorrow of me, but it will cost me £250 if i wanted to buy me another copy, as i say the reason I did not buy your DEMO is i did not have the cash had you stated it was a trade i would have given my issue and some cash for it, but you did not know that, i don't know wgo owns the copy on Johns list but it is bound to go for 3 fugues Dave in the future if I see a record on your listings I will try and bata for them? DAVE the SKINT.

HI ALL This did not sell on ebay? only had 2 people lok at it, it did have a poor picture, does anybody colect retro origanal cloths on SOUL SOURCE as I have some nice stuff to sell off that is to small or to big to ware please PM me if you can help, as I ned money to pay bils and debts off DAVE

HI ALL I wish I had known you were seling the DEMO! why so cheap? for such a rare UK NORTHERN SOUL record that's what I don't get?? DAVE

Hi All ..Toady Boy there are some obscure records on them President Labels that are crap! there is one on GULL and it's the same group but the singers surely are not the same ones, this is Ali to common in our scene! for example I first saw Brown oat the Rainbow (Finsbury Park Astoria)in 71 the line up was every thing you would want to see Fred Wesley Botsy and Marcio Parker were al there the whole event isby far the best soul show I have seen even better than the DELLS ,and you can't compair to the show had in Wolves so my point the 3 recordsyou a speaking about isthe same group as was al those who worked with JAMES BROWN DAVE

Hi DAVE you where in the Black Horse Pub when Rob walked in and you call out mrs Doubtfire was here, he used to drive a land rover getoutandcary 2 record boxes in his frock? also lil John Weston , you gota get in touch with your femanine side like Homar Simpson does DAVE

some relay fine soul music and linage can be traced here in a very sad loss to our music from All Platinum Stang to Sugar Hill and the New Jack City. at the Windy City of Chicago Ill, RIP SYLVIA and GOD BLESS RESPECTFULLY DAVE KILWORTH

GOOD EVENING HERE IS SOME BREAKING NEWS OR YESTERDAYS CHIP WRAPPINGS, A CHANCE TO GAIN OUR OLD THREAD OF JAMAICAN R&B SOUL, WHILE TH BROTHERS & SISTERS TRY AND FIND HOW MANY GREAT RECORDS COME TO US THANKS TO PHILIP'S CO (EVEN HAD THERE OWN FOOT BALL TEAM PSV) CAN I RECOMMEND A NICE SOUL RECORD FROM JA..IF YOU ALREADY OWN IT, YOU ARE IN THE IN CROWD? IF NOT YOU HAVE TO PLAY WITH THE GIRLS TEAM? FROM PRODUCER AL T JOE THE B SIDE OF "IT'S A SHAME" IS A FINE SONG CALLED "DESERTION" it's on UK. DUKE. 70 THIS IS A SLOW SOUL RECORD BUT YOU CAN PLAY AT FULL NOTCH AND GET A QUALITY MID TEMPO RECORD, SO DON'T DELAY AND GO TODAY TO YOUR LOCAL ONE STOP RECORD SHACK AND SAY:- AL T JOE PON DUKE WHERE IT IS? DAVE THE DRUG SAID IT'S A ****** BULLET AND NO MISTAKES, UK DUKE 70 CAN'T DO A SCAN AS I HAVE A JA BLANK, WARNING THIS IS NOT A SKINHEAD REGGAE TUNE, SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOUL MUSIC YOU WON'T LIKE THIS THAT'S NOT AIMED AT GROWN UPS BUT MOD MAY DAY 79 TYPES??? GOOD LUCK I HAVE MANY RECORDS THAT SHOULD BE PLAYED , HOPE TO SEE YOU AT TORCH 11 STOKE DAVE

HI PETE WELL DONE, AT FIRST I HAD TO CHECK MY RECORDS, IT'S INTERESTING HEARING YOUR VIEWS, THE GOLDEN APPLES OF THE SUN WAS GLEN BELLAMY PLAY AT MARKET HARBOURGH AS WE ARE HALF WAY THE B SIDE IS THE MONEY SIDE AND I LAST PLAYED IT ARTHER BLACK HORSE, NOT BEN ASKED TO DJ SINCE THEN, RUMOR OF A DECCA DEMO? PART 2 AWAITS DAS GOD

HI BLAKE IF IT DOES, I HAVE NOT SEEN IT, BUT I CAN'T RULE BOTH OF THEM OUT UNTIL I AM 100|%| SURE! BUT TO BE HONEST i AM 70/30 AGAINST, THIS IS BECAUSEI HAVE WHITELABELSOF VAN MORRISON SINGLES THAT ARE LATER, SO IF THEY DONT EXIST, WHY NOT, WHY IS THERE NO DEMO FOR IT'S A SHAME ON UK TAMLA MOTOWN, I CAN SORT OF RELATE TO MARV JOHNSON NOT HAVING A RED & WHITE DEMO, BUT NOT IT'S A SHAME? JM DOES NOT MENTION JOHN FORD DEMO ON PHILLIPS BUT IT DOES EXIST ASI HAVE ONE JAMES WALSH UK ISSUE GOT ONE, THE RECORD ON JOX EXISTS, I DON'T THINKS ANY OF THE PHONO DISC PRESINGS EXIST AS STOCK ISSUES BUT THE DID DO PAPER LABEL PROMOS OF SOME POP SO THE C,OULD. I SPENT 20 YEARS LOKING FOR BETY WRIGHT CLEAN UP WOMAN ALSO ARCHIE BEL HERE I GO AGAIN? UNTIL EBAY COME ALONG , DOES SHAFT EXIST A DEMO AGAIN RUMURED TO HAE BEN WITHDRAWN WHEN EMI LOST OUT? WHO KNOWS? AL I AN SAY AFTER THE TONY MIDLETON ANDTHE PARADOX ALSO RAY MERELL THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY MAJOR FINDS THAT WHEN X OVER AND MODERN SOUI MUSCELED IN ON THE SCENE? SO CLEAR AS MUD MATE LETS SEE DK

TOADY BOY How are you! you areaware that the french spanish and germans pay £5 each for the BOSS SOUNDS ON PAMA?~? THEY DO A REPRO OF THE ORIGANAL, AND I MAKE MY OWN BLACK AND WHITE ONES I USE ORIGANAL WAVEY TOP PLAIN AND ADD PRE-RELEASE ON, IF THE LOOK BAD IT MEANSTHEY LOOK ORIGANAL. THERE WAS A FRENCH MAN WHO PAID £100 FOR A PAPER BAG OUT OF BUSTERS SHACK, ANY THING THAT IS ORIGANAL MAKES MONEY, TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT YOUR JACKPOT PRE AND YOU MAY FIND Mr BUNNY LEE HAS WRITTEN THE TITLE IN THIS CASE ZAPATOO THE TIGER, THERE IS A GOD CHANCE THAT I WAS THE FIRST WHITE TEENAGER TO BUY THIS ON RELEASE, AND THE PAMA GAS BAG? DAS GOOD YA? DAVE FROM HIS YARD PON HILL .

HI YES IT'S A HARD FIND, THE VERY FACT THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION THE GREAT SONG WRITER WORKAHOLIC IS SHAMEFUL, HE AND MUFF WINWOOD.HAD THE MOST TALENTED PEOPLE AROUND THEM LIKE PP ARNOLD, AND THE SMALL FACES WHO DID LOT OF SESSION WORK FOR JACKIE, AND YOU JUST DON'T NO WHO IS ON THESE INDEPENDENT RECORD COMPANY'S? I WENT TO PP ARNOLD'S HOME AND MET FUZZY HER PARTNER THE HOUSE HAD IT'S OWN STUDIO IN CHIPPING NORTON, THE ARTIST SHE & FUZZY KNEW WAS LIKE A UK MOTOWN SET UP, ONE BIG FAMILY, WE AL NO THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE DID NOT HAVE BIG HITS, BUT THEY WHERE THE CREAM OF THE CROP, THANKS TO PHILIP'S WHO PAID THE BILLS AND THE INSPIRATION OF BLACK AMERICA MANY OF THE FAMOUS WOULD NOT HAVE MADE IT, NO ERIC OR ELTON KIKI OR MAD ALANE, NO PROGRESSIVE ROCK MICK ABRAHAM'S FREE, JIMMY CLIFF BOB MARLEY.THERE IS A WEALTH OF UK JA USA TAPES TO BE PLAYED AND AS FOR OWEN GREY PAT KELLY THE SCENES GOT LOADS OF FINDS STILL TO GET EXPOSURE I HAVESTIL GOT 2 SPARE DOBY DOBSON. JACKIE EDWARDS BREAD SINGLES ARE A MUST HAVE ALSO ALL PAMA IS WORTH COLLECTING BLUE/PURPLE I GOT RIDE OF 40 MINT DOUBLES A FEW MONTHS AGO, IT HAS SOME GREAT STUFF ON IT AND MOST OF THE SESSION SINGERS LIKE ROY DOCKER AND SONNY COX WHO RECORD THE CHOKING KIND IS LISTED AT £8 AS I AM HEAD TRIPPING I WILL END HOWEVER ALL BEING WELL I WILL BE AT WOLVES RECORD FAIR WITH ABOUT 800 REGGAE AND 400 SOUL NEXT SAT 8TH OCT, MICK SMITH AS ALWAYS WILL BE THERE SO THATS A LOT OF QUALITY, NEED TO DRINK AND SLOW DOWN DAVE (NEER BREAK THE SPED LIMIT) K

HI ALL iAN REMEMBER THE NIGHT AT THE BLACK HORSE IN WOLES WHEN SHE MADE THE TRANSITION, TO BECOME ROBERTO i THINK ONLY ME AND HELEN (PEPS OTHER HALF) KNEW THAT HE WAS BEING TRUE TO HER INTERNAL FELINGS, AND TO COME OUT IN A BAR WITH SOME ROUGH WOLO TYPES PLUS SMOKEY, BUT HE DID, RESPECT DAE

Hi All I will ask Jim Siles the full story but the gist is that the group who recorded "KEEP ON SEARCHING" are the same band who recorded Jamaican music and much of there music turns up on many fine labels in the UK, as session players, just as the top white session players did, also many a fine singer made their bread & butter as session singers, a god example would be BLUE MINK and JOHN MARVELLS BLUES BRAKERS, ALSO BLUESOLAGY COME TO MIND, between that lot and you Hawk talent, but others like JOE MEEK, ANDREW OLDEM and so on had there say but in our story the main man was the HAWK Who used his name to form another fictitious band the MO-HAWKS, both groups had the same members and as suh turned out some of the finest sessions from the mid 60's on wards, so in a nutshell they are all session players and singers led by MO HAWK, I hope that has got you thinking? but as far as I hae been informed, this is reliable info, but there are many experts out there who might question this as being wrong,most of the HAWKS Work come out in Europe, here we have 2 reords by the MARELS that are well worth getting, the GAS 45 has a vocal on the other side, but this was the side we played at the time 1970, GI GI also released on Contempo and there is a write up in BLUES & SOUL SHOWING A FUL BUSTED GIRL SINGER? NICE! :wicked:DAVE

HI ALL HERE IS A QUOTE FROM JOHN ON THIS GREAT RECORD :- Comments Same group who recorded that superb harmony Doo-Wopper “SONIA” for Blue Beat. Comes this 1968 UK 45 that completely captures the Northern Soul sound, with Jamacian Siggy Jackson UK production and Bill Shepherd’s slick arrangement, is the perfect vehicle for this NS dancer that few would believe was not USA born. Check the sound file you’ll certainly be impressed, with the glaring potential for Club-play and the flipside is strong too. Before you today is the Dog-Rare DEMO! Tiny “unknown” autographed on label - vinyl has some light surface marks but as you can hear it plays fabulously. A sleeper that will awake… NICE ONE JOHN, and confirms what I found out about the group when I got it from Jim Silles 20 years ago. and a DEMO CLASSIC STUFF NICE ONE. RANKING JOHNNY BOY ,DAVE K