Sebastian

Yes, that one is ridiculous. And perhaps once again a case of people not wanting to accept the truth. I'd wager that as many as 98% of all the copies that have been sold as originals over the years are repros / second issues that came from the artist himself. The original 7" issue with sharp non-dot matrix lettering on the label is very rare.

I think so too. Just wanted to be sure as he quoted a paragraph where I was talking about the Frederick Hymes 45.

Reviving this thread. What are the exact matrix details on the original vs. the bootleg? Which one has got the following in the run-out groove (note 5444/5544)? A-side: TAMPETE-5444-A MZL B-side: TAMPETE-5544-B MZL (everything is scratched in) Thanks in advance.

Assuming that you're talking about the Frederick Hymes 45, can you please post up a picture that catches the light shining through the vinyl? For future reference it would be great to actually confirm, with a picture, that such a 45 exists.

OK. I just want to find out what the truth is, but until someone comes up with exact proof of the differences between the suposedly two pressings I'll keep shut.

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I understand where you're coming from but if there now exists a second issue of this 45 which has got see-through-ish vinyl, then it must've been pressed in at least a somewhat decent amount of copies. The chances are pretty much non-existant that EVERYONE that has got one of those in their collection is horrified and don't want to post up proof about it to save their face. The odds of that happening and that everyone affected feels the same and want to guard it as a secret are slim to say the least. People really can't be that delusional? I think you really should have. At least then we wouldn't have to go round and round in circles over this matter... Are the copy that you compared yours to no longer around? Is it totally impossible to do the comparison again?

That reminds me of William Bostic's "What You Do To Me" that William himself pressed up recently. I've seen them being sold as first issues lately on eBay and from some dealers. The typeface on the label is slightly different when compared to the original and is being sold by William as a re-issue (so no sneaky business on his part ofcourse).

OK, just so I get this right: Your friend Bobby Jay says that these three artists... Chuck Wood Al Wilson (!) Rubin ...are infact all records done by J.R. Bailey or Vernon Harrell? None of the 4 sides by Chuck Wood on ROULETTE vocally sounds anything like Vernon Harrell.

Why wouldn't they? I mean if it exists, get the info straight. We are discussing and documenting bootlegs and reissues all day long on here, so why is it so sensitive with this particular 45? If I had a see-through copy I would post up a picture of me holding it in front of a light bulb. Everyone can be fooled from time to time, but at least get the facts documented instead of just spreading rumours.

I totally agree with you.

If anyone on here has got a copy that they can see the light through when holding it in front of a light bulb - please post up a picture of it. This thing keeps coming up. That the second issues that exists are see-through. If NO ONE on SoulSource has got a see-through-kinda copy, and can prove it, chances that it exists are remote in my opinion.

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I could also do with a copy if anyone has got a stash. How about Chuck Wood? Any further info about him? I have a feeling that it's not the same artist on all the 45s in this discography: https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/cwood.htm The Mercury and SSS releases definitely aren't. They're all country.

---- ---- Don't really know where to put this topic... so bear with me. I just recieved a package from a "Sara Sanchez" in Murcia, Spain. A cruciform "US style" 45 mailer and it was sent registered but when I opened it there was nothing inside. Does anyone of you know who this person is and have contact details? Thanks in advance.

It's featured as the second track in this mix of mine if you'd like to hear it again: https://www.mixcloud.com/shingaling/sebastians-function-mix-2010-07-15/ Sounds like a woman singing to me, so must be Angela Coulter handling the vocals. The organ sound is very prominent in the mix so perhaps the Al Johnson on this 45 was the organ player? Pure speculation on my part, but thought I'd throw it out there.

Does anyone know which one of the "Al Johnsons" this is (Alfred Johnson)?

Fantastic stuff throughout!

The demos I've had of this had the white label on the mono side and the orange label on the stereo side as per your pictures above.

Not sure if I understand the question completely, but the soundclip in the auction below features portions of both sides: https://www.ebay.com/itm/150820421280 The flipside vocal is by Otis Adams. Both sides are good.

The SMASH release exists as issue as well. The flipside has got a different vocalist, it's not Hazel Martin, so unlikely to have been meant to be released as a solo 45 by him.

The release of "out of my life" on the MARCO label is a totally different, and much later recording than the version released as a 45 on SMASH in 1968. SMASH 2194 - Out Of My Life / The Way To A Man's Heart

Here's the info from the auction: ---------------- PARIS (aka EKUNDAYO PARIS) -- Paris Has Arrived -- original 1970 U.S. album, white label demo test pressing. This is an apparently completely-unknown and unreleased 10-track LP by the late 1960's American Deep Soul singer Paris (aka Northern Soul singer and songwriter Ekundayo Paris), pressed up by Uni Records and given catalogue # 73087 but never commercially released, making it an extreme rarity for fans of late Sixties Deep Soul. Vibe here is excellent mainstream soul sound with occasional funky guitar, a bit like Marvin Gaye, with a distinct Sam Cooke-inspired flair to the vocals. Ekundayo Paris is most likely the same artist who put out two earlier Northern Soul 45's in the mid-60's: "Excuse Me Baby/Don't Lead Me on" on 4J under the name "Mr Tears (Paris)", and the monstrously-rare Northern Soul killer "Sleepless Nights/Wishing Well" credited to Paris, on the Doc label. As just Paris, he put out one single on Uni in 1970, a very good cover of Cooke's "Change Is Gonna Come" (Uni 45 #55423), produced by Dick Glasser and arranged by Gene Page (who almost certainly both worked on this full-length album). That Cooke song is included here along with 9 others; there are no song titles listed on either side of the label, only the singer's name and apparently what was intended as the album title, "Paris Has Arrived" (a bit ironic seeing as how this never saw the light of day!) Uni must have had big plans for the singer to go to the expense of recording this entire LP; if you check discographies of Uni albums, numbers 73086 and 73087 (this one) are apparently unknown; the next one commercially released was Dewey Martin & The Medicine Ball, Uni 73088. Without major success as a performer, Ekundayo Paris later went on to significant success as a songwriter, co-writing the Barry White hit "It's Ecstasy When You Lay Down Next To Me" and others in the mid-1970's. This is a unique opportunity for Deep Soul & Northern Soul fans to own an entire unreleased album from a fascinating and still unknown Soul performer on a major U.S. label. (Unfortunately I don't have sound clips from the album available on-line so please don't ask me.) For more information on Ekundayo Paris and his 45 releases, go to the excellent Sir Shambling's Deep Soul Heaven website at: /artists/mr_tears/mr_tears.html. In generic white cover. Record: VG++, light surface marks, overall excellent, on white Uni label, U.S. pressing, stereo.

A test pressing of that LP went through eBay about a year ago. It doesn't turn up on Popsike or CollectorsFrenzy and this is the only mention of the auction that I can find: https://www.worthpoin...-demo-174065095 Was it anybody on here who got it?

I know, I didn't read it that way either. I didn't refer to any unethical practices in my post. At least I didn't mean to. Yes, I'm guilty of shall we say "enthusiastic" dscriptions... But I am enthusiastic about records and music in general and like yourself, I like talking and writing about records. Sometimes people need to be told that a record is rare or hard to find or, more importantly, if it's good and worth spending time listening to the soundclip. People have a very short attention span these days and you have to grab their attention right away and make it as easy as possible for them to make up their mind. I'm always baffled when people in this day and age put really good, really obscure records on eBay without soundclips, without any description of the music and without advertising the auctions on forums, mailing lists etc. It just doesn't make sense to me.