Geeselad

amen, brother.

and mine.

post is going up though isnt it? from the 1st?

Its nice to respect other people's opinions, up to a point, I agree. However, I teach, and had a 6th former tell me the Beatles were shit the other day. I'm payed to be diplomatic, so said nothing, obviously. Iwont bore anyone with a cv of my musical obsession over the last 30 years but I think its fair to say my opinion is better qualified than the 17 year old, raised on rhcp and the lost prophets. Both you Davie and Ian are better qualified than me,in terms of musical taste I'm sure. But in defending this trite pop tune, and that's really what it is, you're selling short all the other fantastic tunes that didnt have an opportuntiy to be played that night and any other cheesy night it get plays at every weekend.The scene's never needed to be accessible, we've got Simon Cowl and god knows everywhere else for that, forgods sake. It needs, what its always needed, to be vibrant, relevant and most of all underground, to kick against the mainstream mediocrity.

this is my yardstick for soulful house, cant even call it bleeading garage nowadays! At its best,house can be as soulful and sublime as the finest the 1960's had to offer

despite still hating B.S. that's some articulate stuff wot you did say vere! seriously some very well reasoned points that are hard to argue with.

I know where your coming from Ian, guess that's why your in the industry and I'm not. What is and isn't terrible production is purely subjective anyway, I suppose I meant that I'd sooner hear a badly mastered, lo-fi production with great ideas than than some of the derivitive pap that seems to pass muster.

Christ the records I love the most are often terribly produced, in technical terms, that's never been the point for me, true soul transends production quality.

its a rhythmic thing surely, Clausel sums that up for me, but i've also seen it refer to some slow, often epic soul ballads, that to these ears verge on the quiet storm territory.

I found around 30 rock and roll tunes all in grt nick, all london, mainly fats Domino, total of £440, with £210 of that for the raresty of his uk discs, just over 12mnths ago.

cant believe some are so fussy, I buy and sell on bay, if it arrives in reasonable time, a week uk, 2 weeks stateside, and its in 1 peice i'm satisfied and expect others to be, if I sell on those terms.

michigan move, guy old spin is without a doubt the best intro ever. can anyone offer any info about it? I read it was discovered with a bunch of popcorn's tape's including the actual backing track to Edwin's Backstreet, I'll have that as the 2nd best intro ever.

their other release, on heavy left, is even better, but no youtube. ten city define how good it can sound, for me.

there's a bit of sliced toms about that!

mentioned above, cats sound and spun at Burnley more recently, dont know why, the voclas good but it just sounds loads better as in instro.

a reminder of what great soulful dance music sounds like, imho, of course.

I like the aristcrats but billy woods has a northern appeal beyond that, its got a commercial, catchy, edge that puts in the top draw when you add the rarity factor, both are great records but one has that 'up' quality, Hate to admit it but tonally its not disimilar to that Bob sinclair record I love, what it called? thats it Tribute.

thats ace and never heard it before

absolute fool whoever it was. the man was a genius on an equal par with marvin and jb in my book.

hardly ever play anything without pitching up or even down in some cases, stop short of playing things at different speeds, though I've no objection and I've heard some grt tracks played that way, honest!

nice tune, there more to Lee than being a great JB impersonator.

honest question, does the popcorn scene still exist? I mean do they still run popcorn events in Belgium.

spot on Matt, very well put. its a side issue though, I'm sure some Dj's do love BS ( incredible though that might sound) , so the're only playing to their taste, its just I hate their taste

Lovehouse (I run a night named exactly that) but hate Bob Sinclair and in fairness a lot of what's played @ modern nights, in wanting to sound so contemporary it misses the point and, to these ears, it sounds cliched and lets face it cheesy. I'll shut up now I'm repeating myself.

Ian, I still hate it, but you defended it so well you should have gone into law, you been watching suits? For me I think the reason I hate it so much is down to it just being too 'up' and I like things a little on the blue side personally, soul and all other genre's have to by slightly bittersweet to appeal, Thats why I love Ron hall, hell I used to dismiss everything on Motown as just pop. in fairness to the original poster, its a little off putting to a casual user to be so negative about something thats obviously liked by many, so, sorry, but I still makes me cringe.