Quinvy

Let's hope it turns up sooner than the film, we're not getting any younger you know.

Who cares it's utterly brilliant. If only we could find some more of the same ilk.

No, it's fookin class my friend. In fact it sounds even better now than it did back in the day. One I never managed to obtain.

It doesn't matter how good the Dj is Brian, if you don't like funk edged, Latin, crossover and modern it's irrelevant.

I've been to plenty as well, sat there bored shitless with everyone else pretending it's great. Eventually someone will play a half decent record, but because of all the crap you've been bombarded with, this record now sounds like the best record you have ever heard. Next day you buy it, then when it comes and you play it at home and...................it's just a half decent record.

Like I said, if mixing up all those musical genres in one room is what does it for you then good luck to you. It just doesn't do it for me, and never has. The OP asked the question is there a future for northern soul? Well for me there isn't. Were as for you there obviously is. This question is far from unique to northern soul is it? You only have to look at other musical genres to realise that they are all re recording the same old material over and over again. DOOMED, WE'RE ALL DOOMED I TELL YOU.

There are some venues that play "everything from two-steppers and 80's dancers to funky edge, the odd oldie or two and Butch's hardcore 60s "one offs" and everything in between", but the majority don't, and never have, and certainly not in the same room, and never will ! Thank God for that.

The people who want there to be a future will make it happen no doubt. But the way you describe the European scene has nothing to do with what made me get "into it." You are welcome to the scene if that's the future. Keep the faith my arse.

At last, the voice of reason.

Has to be at least £400 on rarity alone. We all know the price guides are just that, a guide.

Reckon it's a toughie I do.

Blimey! I sold one for £200 years ago.

Hear, hear. Pure class.

Wow! nice list Ady. Billy Hines is an absolute steal.

Bargain Benji, one of my all time favourite records.

Hello Marc, it was meant to be an ironic post from me, as I'm sure Tim played both sides. However I was on my i-pad again and I still haven't worked out how to use the smileys. I'm on the mac book now.

Exactly Steve, don't know what Timmy was thinking of playing the wrong side.

Kill me now.

Absolutely Kev, but he had to start buying some big money tunes when everyone had copied the cheaper stuff that he played. And that was my point, the whole ethos of the scene was built on (to quote from other posts) willy waving. Why else did we travel all over the country to hear this music? Because some guys were willy waving saying "come and hear this incredible music, you can't hear it anywhere else, because we've got the only copy" Ok so those days are numbered, but there are still a few one off's out there. Would you travel to listen to Butch if he was playing a set of cheap records? I'm not saying Butch doesn't play the odd cheapie because he does. But the reason he is number one is the fact he has the big hitters and his own one off's.

That's brilliant, I didn't understand Nev's post either, but now I have had it explained, I agree with him wholeheartedly. Unless you have hundreds of cheap records to sell, then the effort required to advertise each one with sound files and scans means it's just not worth the effort. If on the other hand you have two or three big ticket items to sell, you can make far more profit for very little effort. The only problem is actually finding the big ticket stuff in the first place, hence why they are so in demand. Another analogy to add to what I was saying earlier. Karl Heard did what chalky and Kev were extolling in their posts, he spent many hours and a lot of money listening to cheap records at nighters and on line, and he created his own very original sound. In fact I can't remember anyone else who has made such a name for himself in so little time, without buying the big ticket items. The problem was, every Tom, Dick and Harry went out and bought his set and played it, and it isn't just as simple as that either. To find the 20 to 30 records that were good enough to play out, Karl had bought many hundreds of other 45's that he realised weren't that good when he got them home. I think he's still trying to get rid of the rejects to this day. And there's the point. They might be cheap for Tom, Dick and Harry, but they were bloody expensive for Karl who put all the effort in. I'm not saying it's right, but I can understand why most people take the safer route of buying the established big hitters.

I have never heard of a northern night / nighter having anyone Dj for 6 hours. Even Butch would find that a challange.

I'm not saying that Paul. What I'm saying is that the trophy records are high priced because they are fantastic tunes, and there aren't enough of them to go round. There are a lot of people on this forum who like soul music in all it's guises. I on the other hand am only interested in "northern" soul music. And that's what I'm talking about, music that makes you want to dance.

I didn't say that there weren't any cheapies that were as good as the trophy records, there are many, but they are well known. What I meant was there aren't any NEW quality cheapies. Playing a set of the same great cheapies is just as bad as playing a set of big ticket items. I can't remember the last time I heard a record that made me say, "wow, I must have that" either cheap or expensive. To me that says it's over.

There's a lot of negativity towards anyone who spends their money on trophy records. The antithesis to this type of person, is the guy who wouldn't dream of spending more than say £100 on a record, and listens to so many cheap records they kid themselves into believing they are good. Not only that, but they insist on trying to convince everyone else they are good too. There's far more of the latter than the former, and they are just as bad, if not worse. There are certain records that if they turn up for sale are sold instantly. Some of these records aren't even that rare, but because they are truly superb tunes there are a hell of a lot of people who want to own them. To me these are the top 500, though I'm not sure there would actually be 500 of that calibre. And that's my point. Chalky and his ilk keep on about all these thousands of unknown cheap 45's just waiting to be played, and there are thousands, but they aren't of a high enough quality to be played out. You can sit at home and extoll the virtues of these cheap records all you like, but they will never match the brilliance of the trophy records. Lot's of people have set up events where you can go and bore each other to death in small venues, and that will be the future of the scene, along with the other faction that play the old classics over and over again in the big venues and wear their fancy dress. Neither does it for me.

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