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Mais oui, bien sure. Merci Monsieur Pete Le Smith

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It's made for the "Surinamese" music scene in Holland. A "legit" bootleg if you want.

Way back, I first had the 1972 USA Bell press of 'don't leave me' b/w 'hot wire'. But when I got my Hot Line copy, I understood there was another story behind that 45. And when I was propose a People's Choice 'hot wire' I was in a daze. The singing was different but the backing track totally the same. I could read the names and imagine the connections between the people around it but never got a clear picture as to why. I never was so found of LP's but I saw it was also on it and so on the Hot Line LP. And so thanks to the same post I can also conclude the People's Choice and Al Green 'hot wire' little wonder; One of the first groups that Grand Land Records signed People’s Choice, which featured lead singer George Lowe. The group was signed to a 2 album per year record deal and released their first single entitled “Hot Wire” in a studio in the basement of Phil Robert’s dad’s basement. With 2000 records pressed, the song was introduced to a local black station and received immediate and constant airplay. The group was off to Detroit to record their second release, written by Palmer James, “Saving My Lovin”. New doors began to open, including a gig at Detroit’s famed Twenty Grand Club. All of the upcoming and major stars played the Club. Unfortunately, half way through the groups tour schedule, George Lowe decided return home to Grand Rapids, to be closer to his wife and family leaving the group without a lead singer. Curtis called Al Green and asked him to stand in as lead singer; Al agreed and finished out the tour with the group. And so, since Al Green must have sung out 'hot wire' live a few times, he must have adopt it to cover it for the 'backup train' LP. Maybe there's an Al Green cut to 'savin' all my lovin' for you' somewhere on a tape... Thank you all for those many answered questions around this one 45 issue that also got finally answered.

After being invited to officially join the group, Al Green decided to be a solo act and signed on with Hot Line Music Journal, a label under the umbrella of Grand Land Records. This somehow implies that the record company Hot Line Music Journal was pre-existing Al Green's first single. If really so, this would put Al Green's 'don't leave me' on HLMJ 1233 self distributed as a first issue (when they had all the problems promoting it to the local radios) and when it was finally picked-up by radios, it was then given a national Bell distributed release.

They might have cut a demo (not to the promotional stage) and got some copies for a Zodiac record company that maybe never past that stage and heard people about the thing; "The Creations even got played a few times on the local radio stations and word got back to us that we were getting spins as far away as Chicago and Cincinnati" thinking it was them getting the airplays while it actually was… a belief then became a hoax through misbelief… the rest became… discography passed on and on and on… Maybe ?

Right, but what record by the Creations (alias Al Green & Soul Mates) on the other Zodiac label ?

No it's not, but is it prior to the Bell distributed HLMJ or contemporary to the USA Bell 1972 issue with 'hotwire' b/w 'don't leave me ?

I have to admit it's rather strange to understand if this is really word by word what Al Green said; like the very first time he and the others saw their work on vinyl. And like how they had to play and play the 45 over and over again. But then this would mean that the Creations on Zodiac would be pre-dating 'backup train' and that Al Green's participation in those Creations would be just in the harmonies. Unless he left the "Green signature" aside for the lead on those two songs. It is possible but then the Zodiac 1005 is mid to late 1967 since HLMJ is late 1967. That could be a fit. Better than the demo theory. It's against my belief, but facts are stronger !

I agree, the Creations did always sounds a lot like the Brothers of Soul to my ears. The Zodiac 45 sounds rather mid to late '68 to my ears. So if we can agree that Al Greene 'backup train' was out late 1967, by early 1968 it was climbing the R&B chart in the USA to reach N°5, the UK Stateside release has 1967 as printing year, I doubt that Al Greene would change his now known name and "hide" his voice trade mark after a relative success to record even under another name and to pass by incognito. Doesn't make sense to me. Lot of those people were maybe interconnected and might have done work together at times, and then did some session trial of some sort, but a name like the Creations for a band is much too common to state that Al Green's Creations (pre-Soul Mates) are the same group because on Zodiac a band bares the same name. And indeed we read a lot about the Zodiac 45 on Al Green's discographies. At the same time we all know how easy an hoax spreads like...

Yes, I read that too but way too fancy IMHO, even the dates can't match the story. Al Green's Creations if they were existing, I read that few times so could be, must have no recordings and be another group than the Creations on Zodiac. Oh and Curtis Rogers is credited as composer in the 'baby, I'm in love' by Mickey and Ernie on HLMJ 1227 !

could you provide us with the full link please, cheers.

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It just 1233A on 'A' side etched in twice and 1233B on 'B' side etched in twice with Bell Sound stamped & ARP stamped on both sides.

You're right, the Bell release is very common and not interesting to own unless you want 'hot wire' by Al Green(e) on 45 while the People's Choice cut is out there on 45. But I don't know who might that be today !? I was just making the connection between those songs and people involved in them through time and maybe therefore place; in Michigan at least. So maybe not Detroit and still... not south defo. Now I'm starting to wonder since that Mickey & Ernie 'baby I'm in love' on HLJM 1227 is prior to the not Bell distributed HLJM 1233 and this first one sounds more early 7T's to my ears. So it could be James Palmer trying to cash in on the Bell release (1972) and that would make this one a "second issue" rather than a first one. But with less distribution capacity, the success of such a release is competition-less. And those HLJM have that cheaper "home made" label design to them.

I mean, I do think that the Hot Line Music Journal sessions could have all been from Detroit. Even though 'back up train' does sounds very south-full indeed. And so I don't believe either that Palmer James is Palmer record's owner. Palmer James was friend with Al Green and he might just have "lended" him some tapes with 'hot wire' on to re-record it a years later or so for the album 'back up train' on HLMJ. My query is about this not Bell record distributed release. It is "Bell sound" matrix plant stamped and so has everything right (legit) about it but didn't know it existed and so brings up the question; is it rare or known about ? Have I miss an episode in that first guy's record as named artist ? It being a hit for one side and had international releases through 5 year as the"B" side (don't leave me) makes this intriguing to me. And 'don't leave me' was one of the first record that got me into this "dark side" of soul records hunting, so anyone with clues about what this issue actually is ?

Yes but this then... followed by this... then this with Al's "don't leave me" on flip ! At age 12 Green moved with his family to Grand Rapids, Michigan, a city about 180 miles west of Detroit. Four years later, he and several school friends formed a pop group, the Creations. In 1967 the group, renamed Al Green and the Soulmates, recorded the pop hit "Back Up Train" for the Hotline label; the song rose to number five on the R&B charts and number 41 on the Billboard charts. Despite the song's success the group did not score a follow-up hit and disbanded soon after. (https://www.answers.com/topic/al-green)

Didn't know there was a press prior to the Bell records distributed one for Al Green's first record. Got this (shame in not the best shape) and I guess it's not common to many people out there. Or is it ? Wasn't to me until this; And then that means that the other stuffs on Hot Line Music Journal were prior to the small run distributed by Bell records... I always wrongly assumed it was the other around for some reason... Anyone with more to say about this ?

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