Winnie :-)

=========== Fair play to that

========== I have several from Hugh Jism in mine, anybody caring to use it, be my guest, don't even want a finders fee

Mike I abhor the use of the term "tailor made". Why was Diane Jenkins making a record with a classic mid seventies dance beat wrong in any way ??? When all your beloved Northern records were created, they were similarly an attempt by producers and artists to make a sound that was in most cases ALREADY popular. Usually trying to gain access to the market that already loved the Motown sound. Similarly, my own "Twenty Four Hours A Day" was recorded in Chicago in 1976 to be a then current soulful Disco release, and indeed it topped the Billboard disco charts in the US for a staggering seven weeks. As did James Wells' "My Claim To Fame" in 1978. So I put it to you that this is all pure NONSENSE. EVERY F***ING RECORD MADE is "tailor made" for something. EVERY other music scene [House, Garage, Reggae, Techno] encourages its DJs to make new music for the dancers. STILL the Northern scene suffers from the Ponomarenko type cancer that has ALWAYS plagued it. WHY THE HELL CAN'T TALENTED ARTISTS RECORD SOMETHING NEW FOR IT, WITHOUT IT BEING DENIGRATED AND DISMISSED AS A TAILOR-MADE. It truly makes me sick to my stomach, and will eventually cause the scene to dwindle away again, as a sad bunch of seventy year olds pat themselves on the back and gloat at how wonderful they were for ALWAYS boycotting ANYTHING that might have been made with a Northern Soul Scene's dance floor in mind. The ammount of bad feedback Goldmine got over this proves my point. Kev Roberts is very forward thinking, but Tim Brown listens to too many purists. I delivered Volumes Three and Four of that series of my Northern stuff back in August, and, do you know, they STILL haven't been scheduling because Goldmine are scared stiff of upsetting the purist "anti-tailor-made" brigade. As for being a collector, I do count myself amongst the purists as far as collecting vinyl goes, but this subject makes me sick to my stomach. Thank God for open minded collectors and dealers like Steve Jeffries, Steve Plumb, and Keith Williams. And shame on some of you for DENYING the artists a chance to fill dancefloors again. Tailor-f***ing-mades.... HAH !!!!!! Bollocks !!!!!!!! ALL RECORDS ARE TAILOR-MADES

============ Saw him in Northampton many moons ago, think it was at the Derngate, fantastic performance

============= Maybe a badge or a t-shirt would be in order to celebrate?

================== Well done Smokey

============ If I'd have said that Dave would have slaughtered me Always got on with the 'London crowd', they just take some time to get to know

============ Think we're going round and round in circles now. Dave said something about references such as 'this was big/broke at wigan', and said do we have to keep hearing them. Thought you agreed with him from your next post, "well put Dave" or something like that, which was why I was confused. The above is what I expected from you re: history

========== I did think that

========== Ginger will change his spot to suit a venue, he did it at Desborough last night, but Sam, Arthur, Butch don't think they do as such. I've read a number of times that the ethos of the scene is about discovering new sounds, or reactivating underplayed oldies, wouldn't front line DJ's be failing in their duty to educate if they played safe when they visited a soul night? Surely if a soul night books Sam etc they know what they'll get, I can't believe they'd ask him, or anyone else to water down their sets The point I'm making is that a lot of people going to soul nights are also reasonably discerning about what they want to hear. It may have been my imagination but the initial post seemed to be implying that those going in the main to soul nights were second class citizens. Not saying you're saying that Ged, and if I've got it wrong apologies to the thread starter, just how it looks to me? Winnie:-)

=========== I'm quite partial to the four vandals.

========= I take it you were working in the lab late last night? =============

============ I think the new additions to the line up Butch etc may have cured that somewhat??

=========== They don't do every nighter in the country either? I've been to nighters all over the country, the only two which I would say stood out as playing more cutting edge than safe-ish are the 100 club and Lifeline. I'm told the Wilton has a similar policy, but not having been I can't comment. Most of the nighters have a bar at least until 2 and the Marrs and Queens Hall later, so not sure that has a great deal of relevance? Would definitely agree the Jocks get a little longer at nighters, although I think the 100 still does 2 half hour spots for each DJ (someone correct me if I'm wrong please ), so they can diversify and really show their worth which is no bad thing.

========== Pete's way out, there are 7 or 8 better records than you don't love me

============ I meant as in totals going to soul nights, and totals going to nighters. Generally one nighter per week, and only Stoke attracts that figure, so it would be very rare that the normal nighter crowd would outnumber the normal soul night crowd.

=========== Could also be cos they're a smaller crowd and see each other more regularly?

============= Can see a lot of sense in what you've said Pete.

============ What nighter plays totally different music to soul nights? Seen Sam, Arthur, Ginger, Kenny B, Mick H at plenty of soul nights, even Butch occasionally, don't they include tracks they'd play in their nighter sets? Surely that's what they were booked in the first place for?

============ I would say NO, but am interested to know why they may be percieved as different. Winnie:-)

============ Excellent post Jim

=========== Agree they are safe, and agree that more underplayed stuff should get an airing, I've never advocated oldies only, but do accept some people prefer them. What I didn't agree with was describing Stormy, Gone with the wind etc etc, as handbag music. Winnie:-) PS. No you're not being unreasonable

=========== Agree with you there Si, wonder if that makes me a handbagger, a pi*s head or a slapper

============= Great idea for a thread, congrats mods History and background of the scene is always interesting