Ady Potts

think that must be the one I had pass through my hands a couple of years back, think I sold it to Tony Parker.

He had the Counts as well as Prophets & J.D.Bryant when I was round his house about 4 or 5 years ago. We went down the bank where he had them in a safe. He was trying to complete the full set, I sold him one or two & he just needed one of the smaller price ones to complete. He then said he'd sell me the full set, but it was a lot of money. The Counts was a nice copy, but too expensive. They're all gone now from what i've heard.

Talkin' of Kev, classic reply from the ol' boy when he'd just walked into the Peteboro niter last weekend & was stood at the bar with a stunned look on his face. "Hello Kev, you ok mate?"...."No Ady, i'm f****n not, i've just walked through a f*****n time warp !"

White demo...

Hello Rod, Have you got an issue your self ? or you know someone that has one? Regards, pottsy

I just give that Richard Wright a play, forgot what it sounded like, that's not bad is it. Dancer one side & fantastic soul t'other. Is this rare ? Dont remember seeing it about ?

I think that was it Chalky, I know it was a link to a big company. So, looks like you've answered Alamo's question. Re what's rarer, issue or demo of Martineques, I dont know. Mines a white demo. What has everyone else got?

Ah, hang on a minute, they've all got that small capital "H" in the deadwax. I did work out where that was from once, now wish i'd written it down. Has anyone got an issue of the Martineques in their collection?

I can't help thinking there must be some tie up with L.A., because my Martineques & Richard Wright came from there on seperate occasions, infact i'll need to check back but i'm sure that's where my Tootsie Rollers came from, via ebay. Perhaps it was just a strange coincidence, but it does make me wonder.

There you go, I guessed this must be happening. But the silly thing is Bob he could have left you a bad feedback (if he had not already posted you a positive prior to you doing this) & you wouldn't have seen it coming.

Those of you that buy/sell on ebay will be aware that from last March ebay introduced a new thing called Detailed Seller Ratings. So now not only do you have the chance to leave a seller/buyer feedback, but also the buyer can now leave the seller an extra rating on...Communictaion, Dispatch time, Postage & packaging charges. This then shows up in a star & percentage rating on the sellers home page. Now here's the interesting bit. When the buyer clicks on this new rating system ebay says that the seller wont know who has left the individual ratings, so in other words the seller wont retaliate because they wont know it's you that's just said they weren't happy with this or that. Well they're wrong. If you only sell a small amount of items you can watch your percentage rating very closely, & when someone knocks you it shows up because your percentage drops. Does any of this matter ? Not to me personally. But my partner has just taken it to heart. She sold a stone cold mint 45, the buyer paid that night via paypal. Although on her listing she says £5 for Special delivery insured, she invoices for £4.75, the exact cost of postage. First thing the next morning she sends the record, followed by an email as soon as she got back from the post office saying thankyou for the payment & that she'd shipped the record. Next day she gets a nice feedback highly praising her...but her Detailed seller rating dropped. She sent an email to the buyer saying she was concerned that they were not happy with her Dispatch Time & Postage Charges (the two things she got knocked for). They came back with a bit of a stunned reply full of waffle. She instantly put a block on the bidder, but here's the crunch, the buyer has been left in a situation where they could lose their 100% positive feedback. When she calmed down she said she would not do this, but had I not been there when this happened things may have been different. So it's only a matter of time before this back fires on a buyer. Just thought i'd mention it.

The "Need your love" side works well with the dance floor. Never fails to get someone come behind the decks to have a look see what it is.

So was I Ted, got one off Carl a lot cheaper By the way, Eric 'n' Larry go all emotional when you mention them

I've been really trying to like this record since I first heard it, & it's very nearly a great record, but something was just holding it back in the vocal department. Now I know why !

Am I right in thinking the last copies to be sold have been demo's Ted? Didn't Shifty sell two copies a few years ago? One may have been Clives & the other Waynes from Kettering? And was the one that Greg Tormo got a few years ago a demo? Wonder what the issue/demo ratio is now days? Not that really matters, just nice to have one what ever the bloody colour.

Hi Dylan, most people will want it for the uptempo "Get up of it" side over here. Sorry I cant do a sound a sound clip. Great record by the way.

Hiya, I've never seen one, so I can't comment on that one, sorry. Pottsy

Hi Phil, The Palmer one, strange, but true. Just double checked them again to make sure. It's louder & clearer. Ady

John, with the greatest of respect, but I can't believe you've just said that. That's not what you said round at your house that time! Your exact words were "Let me auction the Palmer copy for you, it's far more exciting than the LaBeat". By the way, I put the Palmer on one deck & the Labeat on the other, I didn't realise how much difference there was in the two recordings sound quality wise

Hello John, The numbers on the Rouser were factory stamped, not scratched, with the factory stamp as well. The markings only became scratched in when they turned it over to "Bell" for a national release, hence the Bell markings in the Fairmount copies. pottsy

Hi Cliff, It's Ady, the younger looking one of the two Good to talk to you at Burnley mate. Re Mr. Lucky, always reminds me of Leon Haywood - It's got to be mellow - Evejim/Decca, it's that intro, almost the same. Cheers Ady.

By the way Maverick, great thread !

John, You know the the Rouser has F1017AA stamped in the dead wax, as it was I that passed that info onto you when we last discussed this subject. Master plates were very expensive, as you well know, & I don't think Fairmount would lay out the funds for something they knew they were not going to use. All they had to do was listen to the mastertape. Here's what I would say is more likely. Frankie had got a release with Fairmount, "She kissed me" / "Don't cry little sad boy". He then writes (or may have written it some time before) "Because of my heart" / "I want to feel i'm wanted". Remembering the year was 1967, when uptempo numbers were going out of fashion. My gut fealing is Fairmount were not interested, probably because of the tempo. But rather than ditch the project Beverly goes to Tommy Rouse to fund & produce the record. Why did he go to Rouse in DC? Money, something that Frankie didn't have. Rouse then goes to Fairmount, after he'd done the production work on it, in an attempt to push the song to them. I would lay odds on, it was at this point when Fairmount were most likely not interested that Rouse put his hand in his pocket & shelled out for a release, a custom press. White label test presses & "x" amount of labelled release copies. What made Fairmount decide to go with a release? Perhaps Rouse managed to get some local air play. But there's no getting away from the fact that by 1967 to have a raunchy pounding number with a tiny sax break was very out dated. So this was when they opted for a cleaner more up to date sound to release. All good fun pottsy

Sounds an interesting theory John, but it's just that i'm affraid. You're honestly suggesting they would put out a high quality refined recording with a sax break of over 12 seconds first. Then later on put out a less refined sound with a tiny 6 second sax break? That sax break sounds silly in the context of the record, anyone can listen to it & hear it was a f**k up. Sorry John, cant see it.

worse than Eric Mercury Ted?