Roburt

PLUS, I've obviously got too much time on my hands .... .... well, if I keep busy on the computer, the wife finds less jobs for me to do around the house !! Actually, I'm working on a book & I come across all sorts of stuff when I'm looking for info relevant to my project.

I agree, but Boogaloo Joe is a lot funkier a name for a jazz / soulman than Ivan !!!.

During the 1960s, radio station KATZ in St. Louis was one of the top black music stations in the US. One of the top guys who worked for the station was Donn Brooks ...... Donny's Bio .... Donny 'Soul Finger' Brooks hit the St. Louis market in 1962, taking a short-lived job at WBBR in East St. Louis. He moved on to KATZ the following year and became a star DJ there. His young, energetic approach to his shows made him extremely popular and job offers from other markets were soon coming in. He checked some of these out but by 1968 he was back in St. Louis. He had moved up through the ranks and now held down the additional duties of music director and program director at KATZ. Donny left St. Louis again in 1973 but returned to KKSS in 1975. So Donny Brooks was a top radio DJ who had arrived at KATZ when Jimmy Bishop was still one of the station's top DJ's. Bishop had soon moved on to work for WHAT in Philly, but he must have become friendly with Donny Brooks before his move to the East Coast. So I guess there was some logic in Bishop allowing Brooks to compile an album for release on Bishop's Arctic label ........... Donnie Brooks -- 'Soul Finger' Presents 20 Great Oldies: Various Artists Arctic ALPS-1003 (19/08/1967) ....... TRACKS: ......... Introduction by Donnie Brooks ......... Oh No Not My Baby - Maxine Brown / I Spy - Jamo Thomas / Ain't It Baby - Kenny Gamble / A Message to My Baby - Billy Harner / Is It Me? - Barbara Mason / I Can't Stand It - Soul Sisters / The Pain Gets A Little Deeper - Darrow Fletcher / I Don't Want To Lose You - Steve Mancha / Hallelujah - Inventions / I Know (You Don't Love Me No More) - Barbara George / Do The 45 - The Sharpees / It's Been So Long - The Twinights / My Judgement Day - Darrow Fletcher / The Philly Freeze - Alvin Cash & Registers / Who Do You Love? - Sapphires / Sad Feelings - Cicero Blake / Gonna Be Strong - Intruders / Watch Your Step - Brooks O'Dell / Every Beat of My Heart - Du-Ettes / Storm Warning - Volcanoes So the LP (no doubt with licensing of the tracks being co-ordinated by Jimmy Bishop himself) included Philly tracks from Arctic & other local labels but also tracks from St Louis / Chicago area artists plus a few out of New York & Detroit. Bishop must have found it easy to 'license' in the outside tracks as he was an influential DJ and so record companies would be keen to help him out on a project such as this. ...... BUT ... what would the commercial logic behind such an LP be. It probably had ready markets in St Louis & Philly but I can't see it selling too many copies elsewhere across the States. After all, most record buyers from outside of St Louis would have had no idea who Donnie Brooks was.

Jay Wiggins "Forgive then Forest" (Forget really) hit the WEBB charts in January 1964 and peaked on the stns listing at No.2 on Feb 14th. So I guess the initial release of the 45 (the tracks on which must have been cut in mid to late 63) would have been around New Years 64 (unless little indie labels ignored the major's policy of not releasing new 45's after mid December time).

The track that gave Boogaloo Joe Jones his 'music biz' name ........ He needed it, as there were quite a few Joe Jones in the US music biz (Philly Joe Jones, etc).

I realise that.... that's the reason I would like to hear the 'other' version, as I hate the lyrics to "Slow Fizz" itself.

The 'Wicked One' living up to his name by playing a Swinger's bar in1972 ........

Soul, jazz, Latin (& rock) all featured at this 1974 music festival ..........

There's a film out titled "The Sapphires" about a female soul group .... they play for the US troops in Vietnam .. ..... but they are from Australia, so the story is not based on the US group (who were male/female anyway) at all ............ A 'soundtrack' CD is to be released in the near future (Nov ?) & it seems it's the ladies who act in the film actually performing th vocals on the tracks it features ..... ... you can listen to the tracks here -- https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&field-keywords=the+sapphires&x=9&y=21 A clip (trailer) from the film .........

I bought a copy (really cheap: 2/9d I seem to recall) of "Slow Fizz" blind (off a UK record auction list) back in the late 60's -- coz I loved the group's "Gotta Have Your Love" so much. Always hated the lyrics (mindless dance related words), so never took to the track. Sold it cheap to a mate from Sheffield (who was getting into mobile disco DJing) in the early 70's. If the 'alternate' version has decent lyrics, I wouldn't mind hearing it.

Kris, thanks for that. Yep, the origins of Boogaloo / Bugaloo is as clear as mud .... ............ a montage of some Boogaloo 45 label scans ....

Jay Wiggins myspace page ...... https://www.myspace.c...igginsakamajeed His follow up 45 was also initially released on IPG but also on his own JW label. His later 45's came out on a label that bore a DC address. The SirShambling site says that his Amy 45 came out a good while after the IPG version (as it's Amy 955, that would make it June 1966).

Yep, not a soul fan.

The Washington reference means that the 45 was a breakout single in the DC area and was being flagged up as such by Billboard. Jay Wiggins was always a popular live draw in DC & Baltimore in the 1963/64 period (many of his 45's charting in Baltimore) ......

45's from a few Boogaloo artists were doing well in some cities at the end of 1966 ....... I guess it shouldn't be a suprise that Lou Courtney cut a Boogaloo track in 1967, after all he did use Gloria Toote's Town Sound Studios in Englewood, NJ around that time.

Detroit comes to Miami ....

Back to the Apollo yet again ,,,,

A UK Boogaloo track .............. from Keith Mansfield .... ... the guy who did a few BBC TV sports show themes ........ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gQPkVGS4oc

Tommy & Cleve give it a go .............

So who wrote the music for the original version ?? & how did Jerry get his hands on a copy of the unreleased Motown backing track ? .............. (guess Jerry wrote all the lyrics --????-- himself).

Forgot to mention one of my faves ............. CHECKER 1154 from November 1966 .......... Tommy & Cleve -- Boo-Ga-Loo Baby (produced by Gene Redd & co-written by Barnes / Morris / Davis).

The first (?) Boogaloo soul hit ..... Tom & Jerrio ....

Boogaloo was (is) a mix of soul & latin music styles & it first developed in New York area clubs where local black teenagers mixed with the kids of Cuban & Puerto Rican immigrants around 1960. The early exponents of the music included Ray Barreto & Mongo Santamaria. Other Latin guys to make Boogaloo tracks were Willie Rosario, Joe Cuba, Ricardo Ray, Willie Colon, Pucho & Latin Soul Bros, TnT Band, Eddie Palmiera, Cal Tjader, Pete Rodriguez, Bobby Quesada and Johnny Colon. In the mid 60's, soul artists started to get on the 'bandwagon' with the likes of Tom & Jerrio, Chubby Checker, Alvin Cash, Don Gardner & J J Jackson all cutting related tracks. Tom & Jerrio (cutting in Chicago for Eddie Thomas) hit first for ABC-Paramount with "Boo-Ga-Loo" in April 65. Chubby Checker had "Hey You Little Boogaloo" out in summer 1965 (he was always one to jump onto the back of a dance craze) but Parkway was failing and so the track didn't dent the national charts. Don Gardner started something with his "My Baby Likes to Boogaloo" in late 1966. Although it wasn't a big hit, it garnered covers by the likes of the Emperors in the US and King George in Sweden. Of Puerto Rican parents, musician Pete Terrace was a natural for Boogaloo style cuts & he even titled himself 'King of the Boogaloo'. There weren't too many National hits by soul artists who cut Boogaloo themed songs. The Flamingos cut "Boogaloo Party" (Phillips) and this got them back into the chart in the spring of 1966s. Jerrio (this time solo) was back on the case with "Karate Boogaloo" in August 67. Johnny C (also out of Philly) hit very big with "Boogaloo Down Broadway" in September 67. . Others who cut Boogaloo themed tracks were), J J Jackson (summer 66), Roy Lee Johnson (late 66), Quovan (66)s, Chicago's Alvin Cash (late 66) and A. C. Reed, ), James Brown (Smash: March 66), Jackie Lee (68), Brenton Wood (67), Brothers Two, Exotics (67), Inclines, Diane & Carole, Bob Philips, Barry Jones (68), Timmy Thomas (Goldwax: 67). Jazz guys were also quickly on the case. Lou Donaldson, Les McCann, Eddie Harris & John Patton all getting in on the act. Even pop artists such as Sandy Nelson & Paul Revere got involved. The music style spread outside of the US, with Puerto Rican, Mexican, Brazilian & even Jamaican (Toots & Maytals) musicians coming on board. Boogaloo Joe Jones came to prominence in the early 70's & stuck with that name throughout his successful career. Pete Terrace does a Motown cover & Boogaloo's it up .......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynZn6syBtlw Any recommendations for Boogaloo style tracks that get your dancing feet moving ........

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Smash 2015 by Frankie Valli was released in early January 1966, after James Brown's "Try Me" (Smash 2008) had escaped in early December 1965. The Walker Brothers 45 "My Ship Is Comin In" (Smash 2016) had hit the shops on 22 January 1966, whilst Smash 2037 -- Frankie Valli's "You're Ready Now" was issued in mid April 1966. From the above releases I'd say Luther's Smash 45 had been released between mid February & early March 1966.