Roburt

A question for our knowledgable US listies .... Did ABC-Paramount stay with Sun Plastics Co., Plastic Products Co. & Clarion Record Manufacturing throughtout the 60's (as suppliers of their records) ? ..... coz I don't recall any of these companies being mentioned on a regular basis as the places where soul 45's (& LP's) were pressed up.

You get your first big chart hit & life instantly gets more complicated. Distributors from across the US want 100's of copies of the 45 by tomorrow . Radio DJ's & TV programmers want your act on their show in the next week. Bookers are chasing you as they want your act on their next big national package tour. ..... and these strange guys from overseas keep ringing up wanting to do a deal to put the record out in their country ...

If your label was located in one of the cities along the Great Lakes .... and you got your tracks onto local radio ... then it would also be heard across the border ..... so record labels from there would come knocking on your door .......

It may sound like the perfect job to most of us; but there was a lot to take care of if you were involved with running a record label back in the day. I'm not on about a small indie here; their main problems were finding the finance, getting their records played on the radio & then getting paid by distributors. But in a big label, there were many more tasks that had to be well taken care of & lots of different skills were needed. So you set up a new label (finance has been found) and instantly decisions have to be made. ...... Do you want your own studio ? If so, one has to be built or bought. Then it has to be staffed with producers, arrangers, engineers, etc. ...... Do you want / need your own dedicated studio band, if so you have to find the right guys. ...... Do you need your own in-house sing writing team ... Yes is usually the answer, so again you have to find the right guy, team. .... Do you just release in-house product or do you go looking to 'license in' outside productions or the best available little indie label tracks. ..... When you want to cut an act, you need an A&R team to decide what product will be most commercial for them. What 'sound' is flavour of the month; it's no good cutting the artist on a James Brown sound-alike track if its Motown that's selling best this month. ..... Appoint a Promotions team. Guys who have contacts & can get your new release on the radio and reviewed in trade papers / magazines. .... Lawyers, you'll definitely need a few of them. Staff to be placed on contact, artists to be signed & royalty deals to be negotiated. .... Find & appoint outfits to master & press up your product .... and not just locally but in all the regions across the States. .... An early release does well and foreign companies come knocking ..... who do you appoint as your licensee across various countries in the world, tricky decision. ... What do you do with the 'unsold stock' of 45's. It's just taking up space in the warehouse (yep, you had to rent a warehouse as well). Do you sell it off cheap, junk it & take it to the tip or just leave all those 45's laying about in that almost forgotten damp basement space that has no other use. .... and what about future rights; do you even realise that last years recordings will have a good value in the future (CD's, mp3's) and that those old master tapes may be precious. You'll need a vault where they can be stored properly ... & watch out, coz the vault will be full in 5 years time. Do you throw away the tapes that only contain unissued tracks (like ABC did) assuming that if you didn't want to put them out in 1966, not one will be interested in paying money or them in 2006. ........ So working for a record company back in the day wasn't as simple a task as all that.

Think this applied at the time ..... though don't think the record company had Bradford Market in mind when they placed this ad ....

More females from outa'town ........

Lloyd Price's Turntable Club in Manhattan had been operating for around 6 years by 1974. People were taking the place for granted by then, so the name was changed to give it a new lease of life. Not long after the 52nd St venue (1674 Broadway) got it's name change, a new disco opened a few blocks away (on 45th St in Manhattan) ........... guess what it's name was ..........

Sugar Pie .... but no Honey Bunch .......

I think the biggest problem will be to find a (safe & weatherproof) place to store all the bricks, wood & fixtures for an unspecified period of time. Guess what is recovered will take up quite a large area.

Guess Motown did a 2nd press of this 45 then .... can't see anyone booting it on the (later) real Gordy label.

RE: they may actually choose not to buy off certain people on purpose - I know I do, same as I won't sell to certain people. ........... best not upset you then Pete !!

More gospel in NY .....

Even the likes of Mongo Santamaria made it down to Miami ...

Rosetta ....

Info on the group back in the day .... https://books.google....ghtower&f=false With the Orlons, she sang backing on lots of Dee Dee Sharp recording sessions. Rosetta quit the group & moved to the UK in the late 60's. She became a top studio session singer as well as recording in her own right. She sang on recordings made by the likes of John Lennon & Joe Cockup. Today, she still lives in London biut I don't think she's performed in years.

I think this is the club that Oliver was running .... https://www.stax-club.com/xy.html

That clip is just the trailer ...... .. here's the real thing ....

French youtube piece that is Oliver Cheatham related ....

I met Oliver in the mid 80's & spent the day with him, he's a very friendly guy. The day ended in him performing live in a Scottish club & he was good. He lives (lived ?) in a town in central France and runs a club there. A mate of mine had a place a few miles away & we went to stay there for 4/5 days about 2 years back but didn't have the time to visit the club.

Oliver Cheatham (of Gaslight, Roundtrip, Oliver) was in the Young Sirs. He also sang lead on Mad Dog & the Pups tracks (though he wasn't actually in the group).

Dave Moore probably already has ... as part of his book project.

Made at RCA Recording studio ...........

Tom Jones .... New York City ....

Another 'guy of interest' played shows at the Swinger Dating Bar in 1973 .........

A Motown package hits NY .....